 | lobby antics Not knowing the details of North Carolina and its relationship with Time Warner I can't be too forceful but I do find the idea of a company trying to control the will of the people through legislation a bit irksome. If I lived in a community that wanted to set up a FTTH or FTTN and some private company was trying to stop my community I'd be inclined to be verbally abusive to said company and to my respective political (shill?) and say "Pound sand". |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 | said by Twaddle :Not knowing the details of North Carolina and its relationship with Time Warner I can't be too forceful but I do find the idea of a company trying to control the will of the people through legislation a bit irksome. If I lived in a community that wanted to set up a FTTH or FTTN and some private company was trying to stop my community I'd be inclined to be verbally abusive to said company and to my respective political (shill?) and say "Pound sand". No shill here and I do understand how you feel about that but this isn't the case. It is however a case of Karl doing anything he can to further his crusade for public paid muni fiber that has yet to show a single long term success story in the USA. Now which do you find more offensive. A company doing what a company does in the course of doing business or an editor under the auspice of guarding the public good using his pulpit to promote something that will ultimately cost each taxpayer oodles of money...money we don't have at the moment. Personally I find the later much more offensive. -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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quote: public paid muni fiber that has yet to show a single long term success story in the USA.
There are numerous examples of successful muni fiber. Utopia and Lafayette's efforts jump off the top of my head. If you get Phillip Dampier in here I'm sure he can recite a much longer list than I.
I also have to take issue with your claims of "long term". Muni fiber attempts are a relatively new concept. It's only been recently that the political will (thanks to a desperate populace) and deployment cost effectiveness were there to attempt it, so of course you don't have 10 year old deployments.
quote: something that will ultimately cost each taxpayer oodles of money
This is the most disgusting of your lies. The vast majority of these muni builds are funded through bonds. If the network fails the taxpayers don't lose anything.
Furthermore private corporations don't grow money on trees. All their profits and infrastructure are funded by the public. Instead of a muni build, however, their duopoly leads to disgustingly high prices and absurd profit margins that are funneled to their CEOs and shareholders.
Muni builds keep the money circulating in the local economy by hiring local workers and investing ALL revenue and profit back into the network.
quote: ...money we don't have at the moment.
Oh we don't, but the rich certainly do. Michael Moore's recent speech in Wisconsin about how the the richest 400 Americans have more money than half of all Americans comes to mind.
quote: editor under the auspice of guarding the public good using his pulpit to promote something
You seem to be projecting your own personal crusade on Karl. What could Karl possibly gain by "promoting muni builds"? He's been doing his job for a very long time. If you didn't know, Karl is already enjoying FIOS. He could easily start shilling for private companies (like you), and enjoy his FTTH while probably making a lot more money. |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 4 edits | said by sonicmerlin:I find your response offensive and misleading. You are without a doubt a complete shill. Let's parse your lies and claw out the facts.
quote: public paid muni fiber that has yet to show a single long term success story in the USA.
There are numerous examples of successful muni fiber. Utopia and Lafayette's efforts jump off the top of my head. If you get Phillip Dampier in here I'm sure he can recite a much longer list than I. I also have to take issue with your claims of "long term". Muni fiber attempts are a relatively new concept. It's only been recently that the political will (thanks to a desperate populace) and deployment cost effectiveness were there to attempt it, so of course you don't have 10 year old deployments. quote: something that will ultimately cost each taxpayer oodles of money
This is the most disgusting of your lies. The vast majority of these muni builds are funded through bonds. If the network fails the taxpayers don't lose anything. Furthermore private corporations don't grow money on trees. All their profits and infrastructure are funded by the public. Instead of a muni build, however, their duopoly leads to disgustingly high prices and absurd profit margins that are funneled to their CEOs and shareholders. Muni builds keep the money circulating in the local economy by hiring local workers and investing ALL revenue and profit back into the network. quote: ...money we don't have at the moment.
Oh we don't, but the rich certainly do. Michael Moore's recent speech in Wisconsin about how the the richest 400 Americans have more money than half of all Americans comes to mind. quote: editor under the auspice of guarding the public good using his pulpit to promote something
You seem to be projecting your own personal crusade on Karl. What could Karl possibly gain by "promoting muni builds"? He's been doing his job for a very long time. If you didn't know, Karl is already enjoying FIOS. He could easily start shilling for private companies (like you), and enjoy his FTTH while probably making a lot more money. Another one of the sheep blindly following Karl...obviously you didn't do your homework prior to posting. Let's start at the top
Utopia is hardly long term in operation and by it's own press release on July 16, 2010 was and I quote "Still Bleeding Red Ink" »www.utopianet.org/blogs/news
LUS Fiber..sigh again a brand spanking new project serving it's first customer in 2009. Hardly a track record and they don't list financials so I'll do some digging tonight. »lusfiber.com/aboutus/
So for the two examples you gave you earned a giant F A I L!
You obviously have no clue about how municipal bonds work especially if a town should declare bankruptcy which is a very real situation these days in case you just crawled out from under that rock. So for this you earn yet another giant F A I L!
And for daring to quote anything from Michael Moore as you did above as shown below:
Oh we don't, but the rich certainly do. Michael Moore's recent speech in Wisconsin about how the the richest 400 Americans have more money than half of all Americans comes to mind.
Not only have you lost any credibility you might have had ...you also earned yet another F A I L!
Phillip Dampier? You mean the very same Phillip Dampier that wouldn't know how to fact check an article prior to publishing it if the process bit him in the ass Phillip Dampier? Especially if doing so might result in information contrary to the pro muni fiber message he is so classic for spewing Phillip Dampier?
Yawn...surely you can do better than that....at least enlist someone with shred of integrity and honor to defend your position will ya. Oh wait...I forgot you have a backup plan... it's Michael Moore YAY!!
Now if we were playing baseball...you done struck out bud....
Neeexxt!! Surely someone can do better than these guys....anyone...anyone...Bueller? -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:8 | reply to sonicmerlin said by sonicmerlin: quote: something that will ultimately cost each taxpayer oodles of money
This is the most disgusting of your lies. The vast majority of these muni builds are funded through bonds. If the network fails the taxpayers don't lose anything. Who the f!@# pays the bondholders when the bonds mature and the interest that goes with it? Taxpayers.
If the network fails, the bondholders still have to be paid, with interest.... by the taxpayers.
So the taxpayers pay for the network and it's maintenance, but usually don't get to use it unless they pay more to an ISP paying to use that network too. -- If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% reliability isn't enough sometimes. |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 4 edits | said by DrDrew:said by sonicmerlin: quote: something that will ultimately cost each taxpayer oodles of money
This is the most disgusting of your lies. The vast majority of these muni builds are funded through bonds. If the network fails the taxpayers don't lose anything. Who the f!@# pays the bondholders when the bonds mature and the interest that goes with it? Taxpayers. If the network fails, the bondholders still have to be paid, with interest.... by the taxpayers. So the taxpayers pay for the network and it's maintenance, but usually don't get to use it unless they pay more to an ISP paying to use that network too. DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!!! Yay!!! Finally somebody gets it!!!!! Of course his was the best case situation...mine the worst case...in either case we're both right...contrary to the the claims of sonicmerlin.
And for those who still didn't quite understand.
In Dr Drews answer ultimately taxpayers pay not only to the bond holders but lets not forget those pesky monthly service bills...seems to me you're gonna pay any way you look at it...twice no less.
In my answer should the municipality default or file for bankruptcy not only would would the bondholder be screwed but the local residents as well as they are stuck with figuring out a way to operate their now broke fiber network. Given the current state of economic affairs for a scary majority of our cities and towns across America exactly how do you think this is ultimately gonna go.
City Manager: well folks...we're broke. I have a choice I can hold back pay for our city offices, fire, police, trash and sewer so everyone can surf the net at 100mbps OR I can pay these fine folks however you will need to pick up a good book for lets say the next 2 years.
Now of course there is some exaggeration here but not by much. Just because somebody says oh we'll pay for this with bonds or....whatever doesn't mean you the taxpayer won't pay because you most certainly will if a city, county, state or federal office is involved. That's the only way they know how to make and spend money...your money and anyone telling you otherwise is a liar.
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 | reply to BHNtechXpert The only real muni network that actually is not really a Muni network that is out of the Red and still expanding is Click! Network. But has been in operation for more than a decade. But was NEVER built to actually be a cable network. It was built to basically manage the entire electricity network for them. From start to finish and basically bill.
LUS will fail and so will 99% of the other networks. That is due to they're unable to turn a profit. Hiring more local employees won't do anything. The private companies already do that. How do you think they get customers services turned on and roll trucks Sonic? All companies are "local" to a certain point.
And for someone (sonic) interested in D3 upgrades for NEO/WPA your TWC considers them selves a "local" company due to NEO/WPA is based in Akron when actually TWC is based in NY. 
But as ISPGeek said- Munis are built on local tax dollars more than 50% of the time. and Your own state passed a law forbidding Muni builds of any time Sonic. I'm sure you already knew that though. |
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 | reply to BHNtechXpert and nobody seems to get that part about paying twice. Or once even if you don't sign up to use the network. This site is all about one person being right about Muni builds being the best thing and all areas should have them.
Well actually with a muni build or a public build LUS' press release about being the first FTTH network in the country to reach 1Gpbs to the home was false. Case Western Reserve University's was the first. Case Connection Zone. |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 4 edits | reply to Twaddle
Re: For All You Paranoid Security Geeks and Foil Hatters... Or is it really that paranoid to be concerned....hmmm
One of the great things you enjoy right now is a relatively comfortable buffer between your internet habits and the government. MOST ISP's will fight to no end to keep your info/habits out of the wrong hands not only because it's the law but it's also the right thing to do. Failing to protect your privacy holds with it numerous civil and criminal penalties against any (key word here) COMPANY that violates them.
Something that has been mysteriously missing from each of these Muni touting threads is the area of security and privacy. As it stands now most of you enjoy a comfortable buffer between you and the governments prying eyes.
With Muni based fiber projects that all goes out the window whether you know it or not. Now sure we can say that as it stands right now the same laws apply to corporate ISP's and government operated ISP's but how long do you really think that will exist? Be real people. Think long and hard about this. Think some more...alright...here goes.
Under the auspice of protecting you the government can apply any law it sees fit without much in the way of citizen recourse as exampled by (cough) Case in point - The Healthcare Reform Bill and Case in point - The TSA and Case in point - Homeland Security Act.
It's an extremely slipperly slope of a world we live in today and trust me once they get absolute control over your internet access (meaning the pipe right to your house) you can be damned sure there are going to be some new creative laws in place but that's not the half of it.
Recently here in the Tampa area we had a city administrator who had absolute control and was snooping other city official email. Now she didn't do the dirty deeds herself but in fact had the IT person do it. Ultimately she ended up with little more than a slap on the wrist with the investigator essentially finding "no harm no foul". Now this was just a small local network. Imagine such an individual having direct control over a city wide network. Pretty scary now isn't it.
This will be a huge issue going forward with Muni based projects and here's why. First of all who's going to argue with the Mayor or Chief of Police? Sad but true almost everyone has a price and when you put that much control into a small group of peoples hands bad things happen and there is very little the average citizen can do to protect themselves or to seek remedies should they actually catch these guys in the act (fat chance).
Once you place the ultimate source of information into the hands of the city, county, state or federal government as Muni based fiber projects do, you essentially give them carte blanche to do whatever they want..whenever they want. Ever tried to file a lawsuit against a city, county, state or federal agency lately? And a lot of good that does anyway...it doesn't repair the damage done now does it assuming of course you even come to close to winning.
The potential for abuses is so high it boggles the mind. At least with corporate owned ISP's you have a decent buffer between those in absolute control who can cause you great harm and yourself. Once you give up that right you won't get it back...that you can be sure of.
Now ask yourself the honest question again. After mulling the fact that you as a taxpayer are going to foot the bill for the project and while doing so you will also be paying for service and by proxy you have given up all your rights to privacy now and going forward. Not to mention potentially subjecting yourself to great harm at the hands of abusers of the very system they control, either through direct contact or through the enactment of laws that impact or eliminate for that matter your privacy and protections.
This is akin to giving the fox the key to the henhouse and walking away.
Is this such a great idea afterall? -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | reply to BHNtechXpert
Re: lobby antics ... not to mention, the Utopia system is made up of a bunch of providers that offer services that are about the same, if not even less than Comcast's offerings, for about the same, if not more $ as well. I HARDLY call that a success.
I posted a long list of comparison of the services on Utopia several months back, but obviously I hit some sore spots with a mod somewhere before they were deleted. I guess making sense around here gets you deleted.
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 pinjas join:2011-01-31 River Falls, WI | reply to BHNtechXpert
Re: For All You Paranoid Security Geeks and Foil Hatters... I know I fall into that crowd of paranoid foil hatters, at least in the eyes of others. Reguardless, I really agree with your perspective and I hadn't ever really thought about it that way. To think that a government official and some hired individual would get so little as a slap on wrist for the crime of spying on another American is appalling.
Perhaps I am simply a little too crazy, but maybe there is a bit of truth to what I am about to say. When you -know- that groups, individuals and companies fight the government to keep themselves secure and private, and when you absolutely know that the government goes through every means possible to spy on everyone, isn't the problem far far deeper than worrying about muni-fiber? What does it mean to you when a government takes tremendous efforts in spying on it's citizens? I might be way off, but it sounds to me like trouble that is far worse than some strangers looking into your stuff.
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 4 edits | said by pinjas:IPerhaps I am simply a little too crazy, but maybe there is a bit of truth to what I am about to say. When you -know- that groups, individuals and companies fight the government to keep themselves secure and private, and when you absolutely know that the government goes through every means possible to spy on everyone, isn't the problem far far deeper than worrying about muni-fiber? What does it mean to you when a government takes tremendous efforts in spying on it's citizens? I might be way off, but it sounds to me like trouble that is far worse than some strangers looking into your stuff. You aren't paranoid at all by worrying about these things. I'm not a foil hatter and I'm probably the least paranoid of the people I know when it comes to things like this and I have to admit the more I think about this the worse that gut feeling gets.
The most disturbing thing is that Bode, Dampier and minions have conveniently kept mum on these issues. These are some of the people you trusted to guard your sacred internet through allegedly unbiased and accurate reporting here at DSLR and "Stop the Cap" and yet they are the very ones selling you down the river.
I'm not saying that we don't need changes in the way cable and internet are delivered to the home but let's be damned careful what we ask for and make sure that all involved have the best of intentions along the way.
This muni cable path however is clearly fraught with economic danger, illusion and deception and before anybody jumps on the muni fiber bandwagon you had better do your homework including investigating each and every person involved in the promoting of such projects including but not limited to their associations (current and past), prior publications (web and other media associations), finances, political orientation and aspirations, you name it...everything leave no stone unturned because as with all projects of this type you can be damned sure that somebody is being influenced and/or getting their pockets fleeced somewhere, somehow along the way...especially with municipal projects.
And let's not forget our current governments insatiable appetite for control of the populace under the auspice of protecting the citizens from danger. Nothing would make a bureaucrat happier than to have direct access to the information you receive or transmit without controls or safeguards.
Once you put all this into perspective it's well worth just stepping back and taking a wider view of the ENTIRE issue and perhaps considering a different path whatever that may be.
-- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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Re: For All You Paranoid Security Geeks and Foil Hatters... again. Hell has frozen over; I agree with you again. And with the same people that you have noted. They will sell you down river and only care whos going to give them the biggest $$$$ when doing it. Stop The Cap only came about when Frontier and TWC started talking Caps and now he's the next best thing since sliced bread and ranks higher than BBR on some search result numbers. Talk about drumming up the $$$ with that one and Google Adwords. Hell even the Rep from NC says that she has NEVER heard of BBR and Only Stop The Cap who decides to call hers her unmentionable names. "news" reporting at its finest. |
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Re: lobby antics same here. But this website will as long as you have more than one provider. They don't care about the prices. Especially as long as its fast and is FTTH. |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 3 edits | reply to MEohME
Re: For All You Paranoid Security Geeks and Foil Hatters...said by MEohME :again. Hell has frozen over; I agree with you again. And with the same people that you have noted. They will sell you down river and only care whos going to give them the biggest $$$$ when doing it. Stop The Cap only came about when Frontier and TWC started talking Caps and now he's the next best thing since sliced bread and ranks higher than BBR on some search result numbers. Talk about drumming up the $$$ with that one and Google Adwords. Hell even the Rep from NC says that she has NEVER heard of BBR and Only Stop The Cap who decides to call hers her unmentionable names. "news" reporting at its finest. LOL.... I don't promise this many common topics of interest on a regular basis but it's refreshing to see that people actually get it. Call me what you will (and they do) but most people if they are honest with themselves and us for that matter will have to admit that these are honest concerns that need to be addressed (assuming that's even possible) before anyone goes head deep into anything muni.
As for "stop the cap" I think it's pretty obvious what's going on there. You hit the nail on the head as for motive however they don't have any ads on the site that I have found so far. They do have a donation button but don't disclose how the money donated is used nor do they disclose if they are a 5013c or not (this is kind of important folks...pay attention to the fact they aren't).
I almost choked on my cookies tonight when I read the following in their "about us" statement.
We do not have any bias about the technological platform being used to provide broadband service. This site does not advocate for one technology over another, but we are open to honest, unbiased reviews (pro and con) of individual service providers.
Now that's funny and a load of crap. One thing for sure, before you donate a cent to that clown you had better get a disclosure in writing as to where your money will be used. Since it appears he isn't a non-profit I think it's obvious what's going on.
Something else I found rather odd and suspect is his apparent mixing of provider news with their direct competition news..case in point go to the Verizon news section and notice a slam against TWC in that section. Now if it were just that section he had done this in I would have dismissed it as a rookie mistake. It appears however to be intentional. Very odd.
-- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL kudos:82 | reply to fiberguy
Re: lobby antics said by fiberguy:I posted a long list of comparison of the services on Utopia several months back, but obviously I hit some sore spots with a mod somewhere before they were deleted. I guess making sense around here gets you deleted.
Facts aren't important here unless they're twisted I guess. Well it didn't used to be that way Fiberguy and that's why I'm speaking out about it. I was a user of this site long before I became a member. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to change things but I suspect we're all on the same page as to what has happened here. The key is to continue speaking out when you observe these things especially when you are wrongfully censored. No community site wants that reputation and if they aren't careful they will most certainly get it.
Most of the users here are reasonably educated and see what's going on and there are several speaking out about it. The owners of DSLR aren't dummies and I have faith will address the issues raised before it gets to that point however. I also suspect Justin much like myself is trying to have a life beyond that of our websites and therefore enlists others to help him manage the day to day affairs. This is a double edged sword however as sometimes things well...can get a wee bit out of control. From time to time you have to come back in and seize the reins and remind everyone why they are here.
Anyway that's a whole thread in itself but whatever you do don't let it discourage you. I know there are at least a couple of people here behind the scenes that do care and think long and hard before making a decision to nix a post and will be more than happy to explain why they did it if you ask. If you feel you have been truly wronged however you probably should consider addressing the issue with Cabana or if all else fails Justin himself.
One thing I just thought of Fiberguy is that your post may have been lumped in with a group that was deleted because things just got out of hand. It MAY not have been intentional at all but they should have told you either way. -- "I cant give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time." ~ Herbert Bayard Swope |
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 | reply to Twaddle said by Twaddle :Not knowing the details of North Carolina and its relationship with Time Warner I can't be too forceful but I do find the idea of a company trying to control the will of the people through legislation a bit irksome. If I lived in a community that wanted to set up a FTTH or FTTN and some private company was trying to stop my community I'd be inclined to be verbally abusive to said company and to my respective political (shill?) and say "Pound sand". I have watched with great interest what the citizens of Wilson, NC have done with Greenlight and would gladly pay $34.95 for 10Mb/10Mb synchronous FTTH. It sure beats the $60.99 for "up to" 16Mb/2Mb that is throttled back to less than 100Kbps/30Kbps well over 80% of the time. Such is the life of all Cable Internet users...it sucks.
What is more telling in North Carolina is the fact that for the last three years the oligopoly of incumbents have tried and failed to pass laws through the North Carolina state legislature. Thanks to Citizen's United vs FEC a record amount of money flowed to Republican and Tea Party politicians (400% more in 2010 than 2008 from less than 10 contributors), especially in North Carolina where a record number of Republicans won office. Will it be enough for the incumbents to get their anti-competitive laws preventing Greenlight and other FTTH providers from teaming with communities to provide FTTH? We will see.
I believe EPB finishing their build out as of December 2010 will be yet another success story. While it is reported they serve 20,000 residences and 2,500 businesses, the network goes by 140,000 homes and finished 7 years ahead of schedule...that is impressive. They are expecting to realize 3M in savings a year on reading meters and 40M in reduced outages they state cost 100M per year. It would be interesting to see what type of revenue they predicted and how long it will take to grow to that point. Of more interest will be the number of businesses relocating to Chattanooga, bringing jobs, increasing the tax base, for EPB's Fiber infrastructure.
I have heard of Stop the Cap, but have not looked into it, don't know who Karl is...what I do know is that back in 2006 a Cable CIO or CTO predicted that the average household would use 300Gb per month. When Comcast first suggested a cap of 50GB and everyone screamed, they settled on a 250Gb cap, how convenient.
With Fiber, FTTH, nothing less, the scarcity myth ceases to make any sense to anyone. Without Fiber, you can tell people its a myth, show them the numbers of subscribers churning every quarter from cable thus logically their should be additional bandwidth available, but the public has been so mislead for so long they really do not understand the issues. For a good laugh check out the cable info they share with their potential investors...how they have a captive market and can continually increase their rates over time, forever...its entertaining.
The idea that there are bittorrent pirate thieves in every neighborhood across the USA stealing bandwidth from their neighbors is even more hysterical. I would bet money that less than 1%, if any, of my neighbors would even know how to set up a torrent much less run one.
I would suggest to you that with FTTH, even net neutrality ceases to be an issue, unless some corporate shill decides to make it an issue for their own purposes...none good for consumers.
Having worked in a telco, I know first hand that a telco will hand over customer information with a warrant, thanks to Homeland security BS and terrorist theater they do not even need warrants. More than one decent caring System Administrator for telcos has left that industry because of the abuse of customer privacy in the system by various government agencies.
I know I want synchronous FTTH and will physically move to get it. I am just waiting to see which 5 communities Google selects and than pick from the barely over 30 communities that are offering synchronous FTTH.
I would also expect those synchronous FTTH communities to recover faster economically than non-synchronous FTTH communities, we should see actual numbers to the proof of this over the next 5 years. Probably by the end of 2011.
Yet incumbents do not want to provide FTTH for 15 or 20 years...why would anyone wait?
For the record I am not a Democrat either, 40% of Democrats voted NOT to hold a vote on a law to force political donors to identify themselves after Citizen's United vs FEC. Only Montana has such a law and 100% of Republicans there voted for it...go figure. Even the Republican leading majority Supreme Court justices said abuse would occur and laws should be passed. As for Libertarians they are as pro-corporate as the Republicans...so there is not one political party that serves Americans today. A sad fact.
And no economic markets work based on supply and demand un-encumbered by corporate lobbyist money. There are NO FREE markets base on Economics. Lobbyists effectively made the Telecommunications Act of 1996 not enforceable. And Japanese consumers only got 100mb/100Mb in 2000 for $55 per month, after the gov forced NTT to re-sale their services through third parties. Thanks to gov de-regulation and FTTH, in 2006 Japanese consumers received 1Gb/1Gb for $52 per month, the price actually went down... Something you should see in a FREE market based on supply and demand, the prices not just going up forever, but also going down.
We need jobs that only small businesses honestly provide, not lobbyists creating laws to prevent competition. The first party to return to America's roots of trade tariffs + effective tax policy to create jobs locally will take over and win elections for years to come, the problem is its counter intuitive how it works, though are history from the time of our founding through President Eisenhower gives us an effective road map if we have the courage to go against special interests and return to the roots and wisdom of our founding fathers.
We need to get the money out of politics, not put more into it. And we need FTTH in every community in America. Smart money sees the relationship between politics and economics which historically has prevented FTTH and other job producing infrastructure from happening. Heck just look at Energy, can you say Enron, enough said. |
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