patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Where is you god now wimax shills? Wimax is dead as a consumer grade mobile wireless internet standard. Its number 1 poster boy Sprint even admits it now. Its been a while since the wimax shills have been here. Wheres my cornfield wimax Clear? |
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| I'm still here as a WiMAX proponent. It's inevitable Sprint will have to go LTE as LTE is for the telcom industry. That hardly means WiMAX is dead as it's deployed all over the world and has better chance for global roaming.
Both will exist just as cable modem and dsl co-exist. The industries will use what is available to them. The telcom industry will use LTE, the rest who want to get into wireless will use WiMAX so that they aren't controlled by 3GPP.
Is odd that many actually want WiMAX to die. LTE is controlled by the authoritarian telcom industry - you sure you want that as the only option? |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | With Sprint likely migrating to LTE, I doubt mobile WiMAX has much of a future in the US. Worldwide roaming won't get you much for WiMAX in a few years because I doubt you'll find (m)any handsets with WiMAX radios if you're native to the US.
It's not so much as looking forward to WiMAX's demise, rather it's a sense of being grounded in reality. |
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| I would agree that WiMAX in handsets do not have a future (unless embedded in WiFi chipsets). WiMAX as a whole will still probably be around globally long term though, including the US - but not via the traditional telcom companies. |
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LTE is not nirvana What most people don't realize is that LTE is not some kind of nirvana where everything is compatible. There are actually two LTE standards, LTE FDD and LTE TDD. Verizon, AT&T and MetroPCS are all using LTE FDD. Clear, on the other hand would most likely go with LTE TDD (also known as TD-LTE) because it is more compatible with the 2.5 GHz frequencies they own. TDD is time division duplex, the same technology that WiMax uses. In a way you could say that WiMax is closer to being compatible to the LTE that Clear will use than what Verizon is rolling out. It would be easier for a chip to support both TD-LTE and WiMax than Verizon’s LTE and WiMax.
»www.radio-electronics.com/info/c···plex.php |
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Re: Where is you god now wimax shills? WiMax will be around. How do you think most Wireless providers are pushing faster speeds to their customers? There is actually a national WiMax provider that has been in business LONG before Clear/Sprint pushing the technology. Here is their website: »www.openrangecomm.com/Default.aspx
now tell me the technology is dead. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Please reread my post and then get back to me. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :WiMax will be around. How do you think most Wireless providers are pushing faster speeds to their customers? There is actually a national WiMax provider that has been in business LONG before Clear/Sprint pushing the technology. Here is their website: »www.openrangecomm.com/Default.aspx
now tell me the technology is dead.
Thats not mobile wimax. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to xenophon
said by xenophon:Is odd that many actually want WiMAX to die. LTE is controlled by the authoritarian telcom industry - you sure you want that as the only option?
Wimax can be made as restrictive as the carrier wants. LTE can be made as restrictive as the carrier wants. |
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nobody said ANYTHING about mobile Wimax. YOU said WiMax. Which means ANY form. So yes; you are wrong about the technology being dead. like it or not; you are WRONG. |
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not totally. WiMax is IEEE. LTE is a 3GPP technology- which means CONTROLLED and licenses involved. IEEE means OPEN standards. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :nobody said ANYTHING about mobile Wimax. Umm, as much as I don't like sticking up for patcat88  said by patcat88:Wimax is dead as a consumer grade mobile wireless internet standard. |
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Re: Where is you god now wimax shills? WiMAX is still growing globally. It hit 820M+ pops coverage end of last year, from 600M pops the year before. Should hit 1B this year.
»wimaxforum.org/resources/monthly···y-report
Sprint will likely get out of WiMAX but it's ridiculous to think Sprint alone defines the industry. |
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 Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to Automate
Re: LTE is not nirvana said by Automate:What most people don't realize is that LTE is not some kind of nirvana where everything is compatible. There are actually two LTE standards, LTE FDD and LTE TDD. Verizon, AT&T and MetroPCS are all using LTE FDM. Clear, on the other hand would most likely go with LTE TDM (also known as TD-LTE) because it is more compatible with the 2.5 GHz frequencies they own. TDD is time division duplex, the same technology that WiMax uses. In a way you could say that WiMax is closer to being compatible to the LTE that Clear is likely to switch to than what Verizon is rolling out. It would be easier for a chip to support both TD-LTE and WiMax than Verizon’s LTE and WiMax.
»www.radio-electronics.com/info/c···plex.php
WiMax can use TDD or FDD. Neither is "more compatible" with the 2.5GHz frequencies. |
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| I was talking about TD-LTE being more compatible since the WiMax they are using in those frequencies is using TDD |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to Matt3
said by Matt3:WiMax can use TDD or FDD. Neither is "more compatible" with the 2.5GHz frequencies.
While theoretically true, FDD WiMAX has not been deployed anywhere in the world and is not commercially available. FDD requires paired channels while TDD does not. That probably isn't a problem in the US but some countries either don't allow or don't have paired channels available at 2.5 GHz. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to MEohME
Re: Where is you god now wimax shills? Are there any patents that must be licensed for WiMax? If so, its not "open". |
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