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Re: Testing? sued for what? Do we have to go here again? there is NO laws preventing this. No Laws, No regulation. NOTHING. Nothing prevents them from doing this. WHY? It is THEIR NETWORK! And a few customers that complained? LoL. most of their customers probably NEVER noticed and the people that probably complained where people that do NOT even use them nor have access to their network to start off with. |
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| May be a copyright violation for the ISP to alter a major website/page such as Google or Apple without consent. If they can alter the page to stick in an add, what's next? |
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join:2002-03-03
Williamstown, NJ
kudos:5 | said by Brustus1 :May be a copyright violation for the ISP to alter a major website/page such as Google or Apple without consent. If they can alter the page to stick in an add, what's next?
Better point than those who think the customers can sue. Much more likely that Apple, Google, etc have a cause of action.
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patcat88
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Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to MEohME
Copyright and trademark infringement. You put your ad on my intellectual property and used my intellectual property to advertise your product without a license. Its called loss of "good will". Many years ago (early 2000s), adware replaced banner ads on all the websites you visited with their own ads.
»www.techdirt.com/article_main.ph···8/144214
Think of it this way. If I took the Apple logo, made a poster with a big Apple logo, then put my ad beneath it, and glued it somewhere in an urban city. How longer before the Apple legal team will be on me? Thats banner ad replacement. |
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if it is not modifying source because it displays ad in a separate frame I don't know if that counts against copyright laws. |
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said by MEohME :sued for what? Do we have to go here again? there is NO laws preventing this. No Laws, No regulation. NOTHING.
Ummmm. Hacking is a crime for end users(and in this case 'wiretapping' by the ISP to be specific). So why is hacking the users data by the ISP, via DPI and javascript not a crime? Hmmmm.
Whoever has the biggest payroll to buy Federal Judges tends to win, as the end user can not afford to spend years on what should take 15 minutes to fight in court. With the innocent users winning.
Until enough people from various ISP's standup and say, "no freaking way will we let you Hack our data to insert Ad's or notifications".
Quit trying to protect big business. They got Rich with zero regulation and paid for Judges in a specific State/county, to be able to not give a ratts ass what the law says. |
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | reply to MEohME
If a script kiddie defaced a website which is what I consider this, they if caught would pay the price.
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join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:74 | reply to patcat88
said by patcat88:Copyright and trademark infringement. You put your ad on my intellectual property and used my intellectual property to advertise your product without a license. Its called loss of "good will". Many years ago (early 2000s), adware replaced banner ads on all the websites you visited with their own ads.
»www.techdirt.com/article_main.ph···8/144214
Think of it this way. If I took the Apple logo, made a poster with a big Apple logo, then put my ad beneath it, and glued it somewhere in an urban city. How longer before the Apple legal team will be on me? Thats banner ad replacement.
Hmm you might be on to something. It would mean however that each site owner would (and should) file the appropriate trademark and copyright paperwork for their site. It's not really that hard btw and is minimal in cost. Perfect for situations just like this.
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 rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
join:2000-11-09
14225-2105 | reply to chgo_man99
It is creating a derivative work of (potentially) a copyrighted work, ergo copyright infringement. |
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BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP
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Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:74 | reply to hackingnogoo
said by hackingnogoo :said by MEohME :sued for what? Do we have to go here again? there is NO laws preventing this. No Laws, No regulation. NOTHING.
Ummmm. Hacking is a crime for end users(and in this case 'wiretapping' by the ISP to be specific). So why is hacking the users data by the ISP, via DPI and javascript not a crime? Hmmmm. Whoever has the biggest payroll to buy Federal Judges tends to win, as the end user can not afford to spend years on what should take 15 minutes to fight in court. With the innocent users winning. Until enough people from various ISP's standup and say, "no freaking way will we let you Hack our data to insert Ad's or notifications". Quit trying to protect big business. They got Rich with zero regulation and paid for Judges in a specific State/county, to be able to not give a ratts ass what the law says. It isn't hacking and it isn't illegal interception by the true definition however it crosses ethical boundaries and certainly borders on intellectual property rights violations which would be civil in most cases depending on the severity of the violation. For the later of the two whoever takes this on legally has one hell of a fight ahead of them because I'm fairly sure this would be uncharted waters....not a good place to be unless you have deep deep pockets.
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