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Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:52:13 EDT

patcat88 posted : Are there any patents that must be licensed for WiMax? If so, its not "open".

Re: LTE is not nirvana

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:48:51 EDT

Sammer posted :

said by Matt3:

WiMax can use TDD or FDD. Neither is "more compatible" with the 2.5GHz frequencies.

While theoretically true, FDD WiMAX has not been deployed anywhere in the world and is not commercially available. FDD requires paired channels while TDD does not. That probably isn't a problem in the US but some countries either don't allow or don't have paired channels available at 2.5 GHz.

Re: LTE is not nirvana

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:39:24 EDT

Automate posted : I was talking about TD-LTE being more compatible since the WiMax they are using in those frequencies is using TDD

Re: LTE is not nirvana

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:09:06 EDT

Matt3 posted :

said by Automate:

What most people don't realize is that LTE is not some kind of nirvana where everything is compatible. There are actually two LTE standards, LTE FDD and LTE TDD. Verizon, AT&T and MetroPCS are all using LTE FDM. Clear, on the other hand would most likely go with LTE TDM (also known as TD-LTE) because it is more compatible with the 2.5 GHz frequencies they own. TDD is time division duplex, the same technology that WiMax uses. In a way you could say that WiMax is closer to being compatible to the LTE that Clear is likely to switch to than what Verizon is rolling out. It would be easier for a chip to support both TD-LTE and WiMax than Verizon’s LTE and WiMax.
»www.radio-electronics.com/info/c···plex.php

WiMax can use TDD or FDD. Neither is "more compatible" with the 2.5GHz frequencies.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:56:37 EDT

xenophon posted : WiMAX is still growing globally. It hit 820M+ pops coverage end of last year, from 600M pops the year before. Should hit 1B this year.

»wimaxforum.org/resources/monthly···y-report

Sprint will likely get out of WiMAX but it's ridiculous to think Sprint alone defines the industry.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:41:03 EDT

openbox9 posted :

said by MEohME :

nobody said ANYTHING about mobile Wimax.

Umm, as much as I don't like sticking up for patcat88

said by patcat88:

Wimax is dead as a consumer grade mobile wireless internet standard.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:14:36 EDT

anon posted : not totally. WiMax is IEEE. LTE is a 3GPP technology- which means CONTROLLED and licenses involved. IEEE means OPEN standards.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:13:12 EDT

anon posted : nobody said ANYTHING about mobile Wimax. YOU said WiMax. Which means ANY form. So yes; you are wrong about the technology being dead. like it or not; you are WRONG.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:11:18 EDT

patcat88 posted :

said by xenophon:

Is odd that many actually want WiMAX to die. LTE is controlled by the authoritarian telcom industry - you sure you want that as the only option?

Wimax can be made as restrictive as the carrier wants. LTE can be made as restrictive as the carrier wants.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:10:04 EDT

patcat88 posted :

said by MEohME :

WiMax will be around. How do you think most Wireless providers are pushing faster speeds to their customers? There is actually a national WiMax provider that has been in business LONG before Clear/Sprint pushing the technology. Here is their website: »www.openrangecomm.com/Default.aspx

now tell me the technology is dead.

Thats not mobile wimax.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:26:16 EDT

openbox9 posted : Please reread my post and then get back to me.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:15:09 EDT

anon posted : WiMax will be around. How do you think most Wireless providers are pushing faster speeds to their customers? There is actually a national WiMax provider that has been in business LONG before Clear/Sprint pushing the technology. Here is their website: »www.openrangecomm.com/Default.aspx

now tell me the technology is dead.

LTE is not nirvana

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:56:12 EDT

Automate posted : What most people don't realize is that LTE is not some kind of nirvana where everything is compatible. There are actually two LTE standards, LTE FDD and LTE TDD. Verizon, AT&T and MetroPCS are all using LTE FDD. Clear, on the other hand would most likely go with LTE TDD (also known as TD-LTE) because it is more compatible with the 2.5 GHz frequencies they own. TDD is time division duplex, the same technology that WiMax uses. In a way you could say that WiMax is closer to being compatible to the LTE that Clear will use than what Verizon is rolling out. It would be easier for a chip to support both TD-LTE and WiMax than Verizon’s LTE and WiMax.
»www.radio-electronics.com/info/c···plex.php

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:53:00 EDT

xenophon posted : I would agree that WiMAX in handsets do not have a future (unless embedded in WiFi chipsets). WiMAX as a whole will still probably be around globally long term though, including the US - but not via the traditional telcom companies.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:50:17 EDT

openbox9 posted : With Sprint likely migrating to LTE, I doubt mobile WiMAX has much of a future in the US. Worldwide roaming won't get you much for WiMAX in a few years because I doubt you'll find (m)any handsets with WiMAX radios if you're native to the US.

It's not so much as looking forward to WiMAX's demise, rather it's a sense of being grounded in reality.

Re: Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:36:15 EDT

xenophon posted : I'm still here as a WiMAX proponent. It's inevitable Sprint will have to go LTE as LTE is for the telcom industry. That hardly means WiMAX is dead as it's deployed all over the world and has better chance for global roaming.

Both will exist just as cable modem and dsl co-exist. The industries will use what is available to them. The telcom industry will use LTE, the rest who want to get into wireless will use WiMAX so that they aren't controlled by 3GPP.

Is odd that many actually want WiMAX to die. LTE is controlled by the authoritarian telcom industry - you sure you want that as the only option?

Where is you god now wimax shills?

Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:02:18 EDT

patcat88 posted : Wimax is dead as a consumer grade mobile wireless internet standard. Its number 1 poster boy Sprint even admits it now. Its been a while since the wimax shills have been here. Wheres my cornfield wimax Clear?