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xur17

join:2003-03-26
Cincinnati, OH

3g Frequencies

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Are they going to support both?


BF69
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3G is going the way of the dinosaur anyways



Simba7
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said by BF69:

3G is going the way of the dinosaur anyways

Not really. If you think that, you must love their pricing model for 4G.


BF69
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said by Simba7:

said by BF69:

3G is going the way of the dinosaur anyways

Not really. If you think that, you must love their pricing model for 4G.

Um yeah. Here's the OP question.

said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Now this merger will take at least a year to approve then it will take at least a few years after that for consolidation to be finsihed. By then NO ONE will be selling a 3G phone. Every device will be 4G.


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said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies).

AT&T's HSxPA = 850/1900 = 14d/?u
T-Mobile's HSPA+/AWS = 1700/1900 = 21d/5.7u
They both use 850/1900 for their GSM phones.

Their next phones would have 3G+4G, like Sprint does now.
(FYI-Sprint's 4G WiMax=10d/6u)
AFAIK, AT&T didn't have a presence in 1700/1900.
If so they just got lots of spectrum, it's a perfect setup for an expanded transition to HSPA+.

In my market T-Mobile uses twice as many 75' towers as AT&T has 150' towers.
I can find a T-Mobile tower in nearly every AT&T coverage hole.
I used to unlock my AT&T phones and put prepaid T-Mobile sim cards in them because T-Mobile's coverage was better for me.

I'd say T-Mobile has been grooming themselves for an AT&T buyout.

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reply to xur17
Some of t-mobile's devices already support At&t's 3g/4g networks. The dell mini 10 (both 3g and 4g), dell streak 7, and most data cards support 850mhz gsm/HSPA(+), 1900mhz gsm/HSPA(+), aws, and international frequencies.

If they open up at&t 3g/4g networks up to t-mobile customers, 2 of my 3 devices would be able to use it.
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chuckkk

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reply to xur17
Many of T-Mobiles current phones support both networks.



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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by Simba7:

said by BF69:

3G is going the way of the dinosaur anyways

Not really. If you think that, you must love their pricing model for 4G.

Um yeah. Here's the OP question.

said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Now this merger will take at least a year to approve then it will take at least a few years after that for consolidation to be finsihed. By then NO ONE will be selling a 3G phone. Every device will be 4G.

Kinda like how phones today don't support GSM.
Right?
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BF69
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said by tiger72:

Kinda like how phones today don't support GSM.
Right?

You know I could drive down the road in a Model-T, it doesn't mean automakers are still making them nor does it mean it's very pratical. Are you here to argue with me? Seriously I'm asking.


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said by tiger72:

Kinda like how phones today don't support GSM.

They don't? (looks at his D2G)


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Except that the gap between "3g" HSPA+ (which includes 84mbps DC MIMO HSPA+) and "4g" LTE (70-100mbps) is negligible. Their spectral efficiencies are quite similar. It's like comparing last year's Corvette to this year's Porsche.



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said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Are they going to support both?

AT&T says T-Mobile 3G customers will need NEW phones:
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_···a_phones

AT&T says that if its deal to buy T-Mobile USA goes through, T-Mobile subscribers with "3G" phones will need to replace those to keep their wireless broadband service working.

AT&T said Monday that it in the year after the closing, it plans to rearrange how T-Mobile's cell towers work. The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be repurposed for 4G, which is faster.

That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T's 3G frequencies. AT&T said it had factored the cost of replacement phones into the total cost of the acquisition.


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said by Linklist:

said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Are they going to support both?

AT&T says T-Mobile 3G customers will need NEW phones:
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_···a_phones

AT&T says that if its deal to buy T-Mobile USA goes through, T-Mobile subscribers with "3G" phones will need to replace those to keep their wireless broadband service working.

AT&T said Monday that it in the year after the closing, it plans to rearrange how T-Mobile's cell towers work. The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be repurposed for 4G, which is faster.

That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T's 3G frequencies. AT&T said it had factored the cost of replacement phones into the total cost of the acquisition.

Like i posted, 2 of my t-mobile phones come with 850mhz and 1900mhz wcdma 3g built in, the bands at&t uses for 3g (along with t-mobile's native 1700mhz). so no, not all t-mobile customers will need new devices. Most, but not all.
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said by Linklist:

said by xur17:

I wonder what is going to happen to their 3g frequencies (since each support different frequencies). Phones normally only work with one of the carrier's 3g frequency.

Are they going to support both?

AT&T says T-Mobile 3G customers will need NEW phones:
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_···a_phones

AT&T says that if its deal to buy T-Mobile USA goes through, T-Mobile subscribers with "3G" phones will need to replace those to keep their wireless broadband service working.

AT&T said Monday that it in the year after the closing, it plans to rearrange how T-Mobile's cell towers work. The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be repurposed for 4G, which is faster.

That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T's 3G frequencies. AT&T said it had factored the cost of replacement phones into the total cost of the acquisition.

It's AT&T. They will make the T-mobile customers pay the full price for the new phone.
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Simba7
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said by Alcohol:

It's AT&T. They will make the T-mobile customers pay the full price for the new phone.

I wouldn't doubt it. They pulled that crap with Alltel here. "Sure, we'll give you *this* phone, but if you want a phone that functions like your old one, you'll have to *upgrade* to our new plan."

Yep.. They were trying to replace my HTC Touch Pro with an.. Aria. I was like "WTH?", so I went to them and they said "Well, you can upgrade to this phone, but you'll have to sign for 2 years under an at&t plan. We do have a Blackberry that functions just like your old phone if you want to keep your existing plan."

You can imagine the look I gave the sales rep when he told me that. I did an about face and left, never to return.
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