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Re: We can only hope!

Fri, 08 Apr 2011 11:58:56 EDT

lbesing posted : I agree regarding their need to increase their back haul capacity. That's their primary problem. They have plenty of spectrum, more than AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon combined. The problem is capacity. When you have hundreds of customers connecting via a particular cell tower site, but that cell tower site can't pass their traffic fast enough to adjacent sites, and thus back to the backbone access for the Internet, it clogs up. Sort of like flooding in a river when you have too heavy of a rain, and the water can't get down stream fast enough.

Going to LTE will only increase the congestion for CLEAR. I'm sure glad they didn't go ahead with their 4G cell phone ideas, assuming those weren't simply going to be Sprint clones (like the HTC EVO which I own & love).

Time Warner (a CLEAR partner) announced they were looking into a 4G phone, and if they intend to run that solely on CLEAR's 4G network, look out America!

Lee in San Antonio, TX

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:19:35 EDT

espaeth posted :

said by sonicmerlin:

You run a wireless internet company? That explains your bias...

No, as I've stated in the past, I work in healthcare. We are working with the companies building out fiber to various cell towers because, if you haven't noticed, cell towers are pretty much everywhere. So since these companies are already installing fiber near our locations, it becomes very cost effective to have them also run connections to our facilities while they're already working in the area.

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:40:14 EDT

sonicmerlin posted :

said by espaeth:

Most of the fiber providers are doing smarter buildouts these days, like not planning installation just around a single customer. Right now we're actively pursuing getting private fiber for our own use via a company that is building out wireless infrastructure fiber for both Sprint and Verizon. These build projects in many cities are coming to completion in 2011/2012.

If the statement was that it wasn't available today, I wouldn't have disagreed. The statement was that there is nothing in development, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

You run a wireless internet company? That explains your bias...

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:03:19 EDT

espaeth posted : Most of the fiber providers are doing smarter buildouts these days, like not planning installation just around a single customer. Right now we're actively pursuing getting private fiber for our own use via a company that is building out wireless infrastructure fiber for both Sprint and Verizon. These build projects in many cities are coming to completion in 2011/2012.

If the statement was that it wasn't available today, I wouldn't have disagreed. The statement was that there is nothing in development, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:39:23 EDT

SHABAZZ posted : That’s exactly true! Level 3 & MCI’s fiber networks aren’t ran to most cell sites. It takes extreme capital and construction to extend the lines to each site. Over the last couple of years AT&T has been extending fiber to a lot of their sites and they’re not even half way done yet. It’s going to take several years to get the backhaul in place. And then once everything is in place the cost to build it will be pasted to the customer with higher prices.

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:14:02 EDT

espaeth posted :

said by Sammer:

said by flyingjoey:

They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.

The problem for all U.S. providers is that this country doesn't have enough "last mile" fiber being developed to have world class 4G.

That's not even remotely close to being true.

Look at all of the current fiber holdings of Level(3), MCI's vast fiber plant due to Worldcom's acquisition of MFS, or even companies like Zayo that have aggressive metro buildouts in several markets.

The backhaul issue is actively being solved because there is a business case with proven ROI to build out that infrastructure.

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:52:13 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by flyingjoey:

Wasn't WiMax supposed to have better data rates than LTE in the beginning. Whatever happened to that?

Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.

They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.

The real problem is that both Sprint & Clearwire are losing money hand over fist and both are heavily in debt. Combining the 2 may only make things even worse.
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Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:29:28 EDT

Sammer posted :

said by flyingjoey:

They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.

The problem for all U.S. providers is that this country doesn't have enough "last mile" fiber being developed to have world class 4G.

Re: We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:11:14 EDT

Sammer posted :

said by flyingjoey:

Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.

Doesn't sound much different than Clearwire now. What good are "mind blowing" trials when it's the end user result that counts.

We can only hope!

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:00:50 EDT

flyingjoey posted : Wasn't WiMax supposed to have better data rates than LTE in the beginning. Whatever happened to that?

Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.

They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.