 rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| A bit off topic but appropiate Seeing how Verizon and AT&T have gladly profited from this do you really trust AT&T to use their own meters to track broadband usage? It's needs to be regulated by the government just like all other utilities....... they will overcharge their customers until caught red handed and even then they will continue to do so... |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Agreed. If a company is going to run a meter on your service, it has to be certified, inspected, open and verifiable, and it must pass every government certification there is, just like any other metered service. You should also be able to prevent any unwanted usage of your metered broadband, just like you can already do with your metered electrical or water service.
You should never be at risk of going over your cap on account of spam, unwanted pings, or any other unsolicited network traffic, ever.
If AT&T and other ISPs want the extra revenue that comes with metered service, then they should be more than happy to pay the extra costs associated with keeping the metering system honest.
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 n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | said by pnh102:If AT&T and other ISPs want the extra revenue that comes with metered service, then they should be more than happy to pay the extra costs associated with keeping the metering system honest.
I am all for regulated meters IF THEY ARE DETERMINED TO IMPLEMENT METERING but that statement should probably read:
"If AT&T and other ISPs want the extra revenue that comes with metered service, then they should be more than happy to PASS THE EXTRA COSTS associated with keeping the metering system honest ON TO THE CUSTOMER."
That is exactly what they will do. They will add a charge to cover the costs of regulated metering.
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So if other company scam at&t like futurephone did passing the cost of all free international call to at&t, they get mad and stop it as quick as possible. But when the consumer is been scam and at&t is getting some of the profit from the scam they just sit back and count the money. A TRUE AMERICAN COMAPANY. As long the consumer is loosing there is nothing wrong with what is going on. |
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Even if they're caught red-handed and fined nothing will change. Look at Verizon's $1.99 phantom data charges (in many cases billed when no data was used). Verizon knew there was a problem that went on for years and when it finally was brought to light the punishment was laughable at best. How does anyone in our goverment think a few million dollar fine is going to harm a company that makes billions every year?
The carriers know this scam happens but they have a financial stake in allowing it to continue and worse, they know that if they ever get caught and fined they still end up making money in the end because the fines are chump change compared to what they made from the scam. They'll turn it over to the soulless PR minions who will put a positive spin on it for the public (amazing how doing something you know to be wrong can be spun to make it sound like an innocent mistake that your company had no knowledge of until it was brought to your attention and you swiftly corrected), which will forget all about it when the next news cycle arrives.
Bottom line: We've got regulators. Now we need to find them a set of stones to wear between their legs. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to n2jtx
I am fully aware that they will pass all the costs of dealing with regulation onto the customer. I am also hoping those costs are so high that many customers, even ones with no other broadband option say "This is too rich for my blood." and quit these ISPs.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | reply to VZW EMP
said by VZW EMP :Even if they're caught red-handed and fined nothing will change. Look at Verizon's $1.99 phantom data charges (in many cases billed when no data was used). Verizon knew there was a problem that went on for years and when it finally was brought to light the punishment was laughable at best. How does anyone in our goverment think a few million dollar fine is going to harm a company that makes billions every year? It is the same will Wall Street and the major banks. If I worked on Wall Street and concocted a scheme that could net my firm $2 billion yet the potential penalties from SEC would equal $500 million, do you think the firm would go for it? Sure it would. Same for Verizon. I am sure somebody did the math and realized that even if they were caught, the worst case fines and restitution would pale in comparison to the total hauled in.
If/until the laws are ever changed to where the penalty for financial malfeasance is double or more of what was taken, the fines and penalties will simply be the cost of doing business.
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 IT GuyOw, My BallsPremium
join:2004-07-29
Las Cruces, NM | reply to VZW EMP
I completely agree. The system needs to be reformed and the companies should be criminally charged with larceny or fraud. Determining who in the company would get charged is another matter, I'm not sure how that would work to make it fair and a proper deterrent.
I just love how there is no real consumer advocacy in this country. At least the current administration is attempting to install a real consumer advocacy agency, but it is being met with such harsh resistance by those with deep pockets and have everything to lose when their criminal actions are exposed if such a system is put in place. This insanity must stop! But how does one get a level playing field against mega-corps with virtually limitless resources? Oh, that's right... We'll just have to wait for the Fed to make our monetary system collapse on itself, which probably isn't very far away from happening.
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