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Re: I like this a lot, but ... Well, not everyone is on the east coast.. Haven't you noticed? People that develop of lot of things are in Silicon Valley and not Sherwood Forest. Also, unless the topology of the cable system is setup right, there can be huge latencies and low bandwidth like all other forms of broadband.
BTW, how do you think your beloved cablemodem service 'reaches' the Internet? Now go do some research and realize the naivety of your comments. And judging by the instability of the cable operators compared to your incumbent LECs and other providers, you might think about how much longer it may be around.
Not everyone lives next door to you, which is a good thing.
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| Don't be a dick by calling him naive. He was simply stating that where he is he can get blazing speeds for much cheaper. And by "we" i'm guessing he meant his neighbors and not EVERYONE on the east coast. If he was that stupid he wouldn't have cable now. So save your flaming for the real morons..... |
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Just pointing-out that fast service at relatively low cost is possible via cable. You don't need a pie-in-the-sky fiber system to get 10Mbps. And, it seems, cable is a lot cheaper.
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Just pointing-out that fast service at relatively low cost is possible via cable. You don't need a pie-in-the-sky fiber system to get 10Mbps. And, it seems, cable is a lot cheaper.
Bobcat, you really need to take a closer look at all cable-based systems that offer data services, such as the one you are on. It most certainly has a WAN element, and if there are sufficient numbers (more than 100 on your cable operator buying into that 10Mbps) then your long haul will indeed have a fiber component.
When it comes to connecting to the Internet, ALL systems have fiber elements on the long haul. Try to upstream-handle 10-100K subs each with 10Mbps with copper. Its not going to happen without a lot of class-action law suits when those PUC/PSC coming investigating as 45Mbps T-3 isn't going to cut the mustard.
Your little cablemodem and everyone else's modems in your neighborhood are topographically aggregated to your cable operator's upstream provider, and unless they extremely few end users (less than 1000) then they are most certainly using fiber.
How about this, why not post some traceroutes from your cablemodem to DSLR? We'll all have a nice look and see who your cable operator's upstream provider is and go from there. Ok?
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| I think we're talking about two different things. My point is that for residential use, cable can provide adequate access, e.g., 10Mbps for $35/month. There's no need to run fiber when you already have coax running to every house.
Obviously, each cable node will be connected to the rest of the network by fiber.
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Don't be a dick by calling him naive. He was simply stating that where he is he can get blazing speeds for much cheaper. And by "we" i'm guessing he meant his neighbors and not EVERYONE on the east coast. If he was that stupid he wouldn't have cable now. So save your flaming for the real morons.....
He was naive in his comments about his cable not being dependent upon fiber, when in fact it was. Ok, I take back any comment about Bobcat being naive, and instead suggest he was ignorant. That's not a bad word, but an accurate one.
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| I said the same thing three times, and you still don't understand. Do you have a comprehension problem? The article was about fiber to the residences. My comments were about cable vs fiber to the residences. I never said anything about cable not being dependent on fiber! Got it now???
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IMFixingit,
I think you need to get over yourself, from now on, research to death before making comments. So from now on we will be watching you and if you are inaccurate, we will make you aware of your 'ignorant or naive' comments.
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I know quite well what you said, Bobcat. "Out here on the East Coast, we get 10Mbps down / 1Mbps up cable for $34 per month with no installation fee. So why bother with fiber?"
Well, the last time I checked using two type of infrastructure were typically more expensive than one. I am glad to hear that you are firmly aware of that cable, even your cable, is dependent upon fiber. So, lemme see. If I remember correctly, the relative bandwidth of cablemodems is in the neighborhood of 30Mbps of shared bandwidth (no, not talking about sharing in terms of his neighbors).
Fiber, most notably SMF in the ground is a lot more and can easily handle greater amounts for additional services. Hey, that must be why so many of the cable providers near me, also on the East Coast, are replacing large chunks of the neighborhood facilities with fiber. Go figure.
As for CitizenX and DamnDave, byte me. I'll take my fiber any and every day over cablemodems. And I think my fiber will be around a lot longer than Bob's cable service--provided it isn't upgraded to fiber.
BTW, I am not knocking cable technology. It was good for data and may still be for some, like Bob, but there are those that felt differently, like myself and EPA.
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| There's fiber all over my neighborhood. There's fiber 150 feet from my house. But the cable company thinks it's more cost effective to have nodes which convert from fiber to coax for every 200-500 homes than to run the fiber into every house.
The cable company's installation fee is $50 (for cable TV or Internet service). That's a lot cheaper than $1200. And my monthly fee is $29, which is a lot cheaper than the monthly fee for the fiber-based service.
So, fiber is more expensive for the same speeds. But if you want to spend an extra $1150 for installation and an extra $10 per month, go ahead. I'm not going to argue about it anymore.
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