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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA | reply to grazed
Re: Nanny cam More likely, it's not so much that the employees are 'dodgy' as they find themselves overworked because management hasn't hired enough of them to deal with the workload.
It's a simple solution -- someone screws up to stay on schedule, you blame the employee and then moan "If only I had known!" 
It's a great way to maximize profits, especially if your employees actually do care about their patients and are therefore unlikely to complain (publicly) about being overworked. Once the employees find out how the system works, they become primarily interested in getting a job with a better firm -- and part of that is having no adverse comments on your references. So, they shut up, grin and bear it -- until the pressure becomes too much.
Yes, they should take it out on their managers, but ... which ones? Who makes the policy and who is simply trying to make it work as best as possible? -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris | | |
|  | reply to grazed said by grazed:said by goalieskates:I'd love to believe it was a case of poor folks who don't know better, but it's more a comment on the values of society in general. I don't mean they were ignorant of what they were doing, I mean that they hire dodgy employees for cheap instead of hiring more expensive employees with experience / education in the field. Oh, I'm sure you're right about that as far as it goes. But I was commenting as much on the ethics of the people doing the hiring - they'll not only hire cheap, they don't supervise and they don't care what happens as long as they turn a profit. Then when something like this happens they'll feign innocence and blame it all on rogue employees, like they had no part in putting those people to work in the first place. | |  jaykaykay4 Ever YoungPremium,MVM join:2000-04-13 Scottsdale, AZ kudos:19 Reviews:
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| reply to Link Logger I detest, "big brother is watching", as an idea in general. But for some reason, in today's Society, and I hear my parents over in over in feeling as I do, things have altered so much that it's hard to recognize respect and care today. Using a camera in a penalizing/detecting mode has become almost the rigour.
I fear that this obnoxious person will get off as well, but I do hope not. I certainly don't want to think that Senior Abuse is as prevalent as I know it is and that those perpetrating horrendous acts get off free. Were it a child and a Nanny Cam had caught this individual, i doubt that there would be any question of guilt for any reason. Adult Abuse has become just, "one of those things" today. We no longer respect our elders as we used to. How has our civilization gone so far afield?  -- JKK
Age is a very high price to pay for my maturity. If I can't stay young, I can at least stay immature!
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| |  | reply to The Snowman 2 more arrested in Delco nursing home abuse case
Two more care workers have been arrested and charged in he abuse of an elderly dementia patient at a well-known Delaware County nursing home facility, police said. The announcement comes as officials confirm that the state's Department of Public Welfare, which oversees licensing and inspections of personal care homes, also is conducting a "parallel" investigation into the facility.
Arrested today were Tyrina Griffin, 21, and Ayesha Muhammad, 19, both of Philadelphia.
They are charged with aggravated assault, simple assault, criminal conspiracy, harassment, neglect of a care-dependent person and other related crimes.
The two worked at the Quadrangle Sunrise Senior Living, 3300 Darby Rd., Haverford, and allegedly taunted and physically abused a 78-year-old woman, suffering from dementia.
On Wednesday, Samirah Traynham, 22, of Yeadon, was arrested and charged in the case.
"Why do they keep picking on me?" Lois McCallister asked her family, who suspected abuse at the well-known Delaware County facility and installed the hidden camera, according to court documents.
McCallister is now living with family.
-------------------------------------------------------------- »www.philly.com/philly/news/break···ase.html | |  1 edit | reply to The Snowman Un-fortunately, due to my own health conditions I have had extensive experience in recent years with the health care area.........an that experience has been an absolute horror. In numerous cases it has been nurses that have been the very worse......I have lost count with how many times hospital patient relations have contacted me apologizing......an asking if I intended to file lawsuits. An yes, much of this abuse is related to profit...for sure......but mostly its related to a lack of proper supervision...supervisors refuse to discipline....they do not want to rock the boat. Excuses are a plenty........always its the patients fault.
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Checked into the price of a Nanny Cam an discovered that they are not cheap........my guess is that the vendors play on "fear" to sell their product at such high cost.....anyone interested in such a device should shop around. | |  PinanPremium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-09-02 Murrieta, CA kudos:1 | said by The Snowman: Checked into the price of a Nanny Cam an discovered that they are not cheap
I've purchased two Foscam F18918 IP camera's and they're great. Only about $80 and work very well. Pan/tilt, wireless, motion detect, record, alarm, etc.
I can even view/control them on my Android phone!  | |  | Pinan: "The Great Wise One "
Thanks for sharing that info......none of the Cams I checked were under $200........mostly above $300.........that could be a "bite" these days on struggling families. This Topic really got me thinking....as previously mentioned I have experienced shall we say "odd behavior" on the part of medical personal....... ......as for nursing homes....those places remind me of POW. Camps.......an these Nanny Cams have a useful place. | |  PinanPremium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-09-02 Murrieta, CA kudos:1 | I had looked for about a year, on and off, and was surprised to find the Foscam to be so affordable. Ordered one and thought it was great. Ordered another, and been quite happy with them.
Btw. They come in white or black, which is handy for making them somewhat less visible, depending on the surrounding color. | |  | There could be a very real business opportunity here......at the price Pinan posted a person could begin a small Service for a reasonable outlay of cash an offer the Service to families who suspect abuse. Elder abuse is epidemic in nursing homes around the world an most families have no idea how to provide protection for their love ones. ----------------------------------
My guess is that there are people who have read this topic that are now asking themselfs if their loved ones are safe.....or, if they will be safe if they are put in such situations. Prior to my illness I would have not thought the situation was nearly as bad as I now know that it is. The Abusers need to be in prisons......doing harm to the helpless is a terrible thing..........an the sick minded individuals who do such ugly stuff may get away with their behavior for years.....or, if caught they are simply fired......an no criminal charges filed because the instutions do not want lawsuits so they do a cover-up. ---------------------- We live in the age of computers.......an there is so much more to computer security than merely cleaning a virus or preventing malware.......computers in whatever form can provide security for those un-able to protect themselfs.
| |  | reply to The Snowman said by The Snowman:......none of the Cams I checked were under $200........mostly above $300.........that could be a "bite" these days on struggling families. [snip] ......as for nursing homes....those places remind me of P.O.W. Camps.......an these Nanny Cams have a useful place. The Snowman , I believe you are correct that it comes down to cost being an issue and that being a factor of not available to everyone.
True you can find some IP cameras (nice example, btw Pinan) that can be used as a "nanny cam" that are affordable, but that's not always an option if there is no computer and/or networking to store or stream to... such as a case with a patients room. (Besides not being a secure place for either).
From my cursory research some time ago, in the case of the hidden cam clock device (and the like) they would need the kind that can store to a flash card for later retrieval. Unfortunately, the less expensive you go, the less features that come with it such as "motion detection" (otherwise you fill the card up) and low light recording, as much as I have looked which was some time ago. (My sister was considering some options with a new nanny coming at the time, but decided on whole house surveillance... cost was/is not an issue).
Just an example of what's out there at price ranges: »www.brickhousesecurity.com/nanny···ortblock
BTW, I have no idea if those at the link are any good or not. Just remembered where I saw some.
I hope you are feeling well or at least managing ok, Snowman.
-Jim | |  1 edit | Jim,
Thanks for the Link.......an kind words. For some strange reason this subject really hit home with me. An yes, "cost" is an issue......plus, "storage". One thought would be that places like Churches, etc., become involved...or, a group of concern persons could pool their funds an purchase one or two Cams to be handed out "on loan" when there is a possible abuse incident. "Where there is a Will...there is a way".........this does not need to be complicated or overly expensive to any one family. ----------------------- All it really takes is "AN IDEA" an the energy to make that idea a reality. Today's computers are amassing in compare to older computers....plus, there are numerous free open source programs to help a person get started. In Forums such as this one there are smart people...like yourself Jim.......good, kind hearted people willing to share their time and knowledge with people in need........all that really would be happening is opening up an area of computer security that has been ignored for far to long. An if by doing so helped even just one old person like the lady in this Topic......that would be such a wonderful achievement. ----------------------- Ok, I do not want to get carried away.......so will back off now an leave this Topic to others if they care to comment. Perhaps I am "off base" even thinking this way, oh well. | |  | said by The Snowman: Jim,
Thanks for the Link.......an kind words. For some strange reason this subject really hit home with me. An yes, "cost" is an issue......plus, "storage". One thought would be that places like Churches, etc., become involved...or, a group of concern persons could pool their funds an purchase one or two Cams to be handed out "on loan" when there is a possible abuse incident. "Where there is a Will...there is a way".........this does not need to be complicated or overly expensive to any one family. ----------------------- All it really takes is "AN IDEA" an the energy to make that idea a reality. Today's computers are amassing in compare to older computers....plus, there are numerous free open source programs to help a person get started. In Forums such as this one there are smart people...like yourself Jim.......good, kind hearted people willing to share their time and knowledge with people in need........all that really would be happening is opening up an area of computer security that has been ignored for far to long. An if by doing so helped even just one old person like the lady in this Topic......that would be such a wonderful achievement. ----------------------- Ok, I do not want to get carried away.......so will back off now an leave this Topic to others if they care to comment. Perhaps I am "off base" even thinking this way, oh well. You're not alone in this being the kind of thing that just grabs at your soul. Taking advantage of those that are weak, vulnerable, and unable to defend themselves are the lowest of the low... and too many of those are the kinds that are attracted to positions of power over the meek, whether it be children, disabled or elderly.
Our eldest generation deserve better and to be protected from these predators as much as and as fervently as our youngest do.
With that, I think you have a really great idea and I think it's very doable. I can think of a few ways this can be done by any number of means.
For example, other organizations already in place for domestic violence victims. One type of organization, such as "SAFE" in my county (my wife has done volunteer work for) that has a safe house for women & their children getting out of dangerous & abusive situations. Among many things provided to the families (per donations) for this transition, is a cell phone from a recycling/donation program to them to keep them safe and in touch at all times. This, as an example, is the kind of organization that could add additional resources, such as your idea, to protect the elderly in this manner. I can't see having a nanny cam or two on loan any harder than coordinating the cell phone program.
All it takes is an idea, and the will, as you said Snowman. You've done the first step already.
-Jim | |
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