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BetterYet to Kewliuke
Anon
2011-Apr-8 1:16 pm
to Kewliuke
Re: [Bill] Rental Modems Fee - $10.00I just checked amazon and they have a motorola SB6120 (docsis 3) for $84. So, if you're going to be on comcast for a year, it's cheaper to buy your own. If you switch providers every six months to get the promo deals, this might not be a great option, but docsis 3.0 wll be state of the art for cable broadband for the next 6 years at least. So, when you switch back to comcast you will still have your modem |
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RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY |
RARPSL
Member
2011-Apr-8 1:35 pm
said by BetterYet :I just checked amazon and they have a motorola SB6120 (docsis 3) for $84. So, if you're going to be on comcast for a year, it's cheaper to buy your own.
If you switch providers every six months to get the promo deals, this might not be a great option, but docsis 3.0 wll be state of the art for cable broadband for the next 6 years at least. So, when you switch back to comcast you will still have your modem The SB6120 is NOT a state-of-the-art D3 Modem. The modem is 4D/4U. To be state-of-the-art for 6 years, you need to have a 8D/4U modem (which should allow you to get full down speed if/when they go past Bonding only 4 down channels). Having a 4D/4U will lock you out from the top tiers when this occurs. There is a 8D/4U version of the SB6120 available (I forget the model number but I think it is the SB6140 [it might be SB6180]). |
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Alcohol Premium Member join:2003-05-26 Climax, MI |
to BetterYet
said by BetterYet :I just checked amazon and they have a motorola SB6120 (docsis 3) for $84. So, if you're going to be on comcast for a year, it's cheaper to buy your own.
If you switch providers every six months to get the promo deals, this might not be a great option, but docsis 3.0 wll be state of the art for cable broadband for the next 6 years at least. So, when you switch back to comcast you will still have your modem Yep. Just ordered it. |
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Currently there aren't any 8D/4U modems available anywhere, as far as I've seen. The SB6121 is just a different enclosure (maybe slightly different guts) for the SB6120, which I just bought.
Also, Comcast would have to be pushing 50-75Mbps for their standard tier in order to make an 8D/4U modem needed. The way they're upgrading things now, that will be 6-10 years away. So I'm not worrying about the obsolescence of my 4D/4U modem too much. |
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RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY |
RARPSL
Member
2011-Apr-10 4:27 pm
said by iansltx:Currently there aren't any 8D/4U modems available anywhere, as far as I've seen. The SB6121 is just a different enclosure (maybe slightly different guts) for the SB6120, which I just bought. That is interesting. For a VoIP SBV6220 replacement Modem there is the SBV6240 » www.motorola.com/Video-S ··· 40_US-EN while the non-ViOP SB6120 replacement is the SB6180 » www.motorola.com/Video-S ··· 80_US-EN . Both of these are 8D/4U. All of the latest non-Motorola modems are also 8D/4U - The old models are 4D/4U. If by "available" you mean via the direct-to-consumer outlets like Amazon, I might agree with you (I have not checked) but they are being made and are available (possibly only to the Cable Companies right now). |
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I define "available" as "I can buy it." |
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netcool Premium Member join:2008-11-05 Englewood, CO |
netcool
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2011-Apr-10 5:11 pm
said by iansltx:I define "available" as "I can buy it." You can buy the Motorola SBG6580 through retail and its 8D/4U. |
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I see. |
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EGThe wings of love Premium Member join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ
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EG
Premium Member
2011-Apr-11 12:13 am
FWIW readers should be advised that the Moto SBG6580 is a combo modem/router/wireless gateway device if that is what one wants but it can also be configured to be a stand alone type layer 2 bridge modem. |
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iansltx
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2011-Apr-11 12:30 am
Good to know...$130 for a modem though... |
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EGThe wings of love Premium Member join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ
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EG
Premium Member
2011-Apr-11 12:52 am
said by iansltx:Good to know...$130 for a modem though... You are paying for this combination of devices. It's not just a "modem". That was my point. IMO these combo devices are always a quality compromise compared to separate dedicated units. Let alone that there are other benefits to having individual units which has been posted many times here. A forum search would show these postings. |
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iansltx
Member
2011-Apr-11 12:59 pm
...which is why I took the price as of a standalone modem. Combo devices scare me I have had a separate modem and router since I've had broadband internet service with anyone, so you're preaching to the choir on advantages of modem + router versus a combo. |
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EGThe wings of love Premium Member join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ
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EG
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2011-Apr-11 1:07 pm
said by iansltx:... so you're preaching to the choir on advantages of modem + router versus a combo. Well alrighty then ! May it benefit all readers here ! |
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DarkLogixTexan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX |
and then he said let there not be combos used, and all was good |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, Prospice Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ |
AVD
Premium Member
2011-Apr-11 1:12 pm
said by DarkLogix:and then he said let there not be combos used, and all was good Its good as customer owned equipment, not as a system owned CPE. |
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DarkLogixTexan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX |
well a combo AP/Router/Switch sure (almost everyone uses that combo) not that I support it (I'd like for AP's and routers to not be combos) but a Modem/Router/AP/Switch is to far
the big issue is a component that has customer adjustable
settings that can only get a firemware update via the provider ie user needs to set ssid, nat, ect but if theres a bug it can't be firmware upgraded by the client (ya this feeds to my hate of the SMC but I'm stuck with using an SMC) |
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