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biochemistry
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biochemistry

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Unlimited

If Sprint was available in my area, I'd dump Verizon. Unlimited internet is a great motivation to switch providers.

HappyAnarchy
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Isn't VZW the other provider that offers unlimited. That may change but it hasn't yet. My data plan is unlimited.

Unless you mean mobile BBD, but I don't think their mobile BBD is unlimited either.

MovieLover76
join:2009-09-11
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According to Sprint, Verizon isn't unlimited because of throttling the top 5% of data hungry users, they mention throttling specifically in their advertisement.
I'm fairly data hungry and on an unlimited Verizon plan and I've never been throttled but apparently it does happen.
I'd switch to Sprint if their 4G coverage was better, my Thunderbolt screams, but no Sprint 4G here.
criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY

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The fact is that Verizon's "unlimited" 4G is only on their smartphones. You can't get it on your computer, unless you want to, as one DSL Reports wag put it, "cough (root) cough and cough (tether) cough".

Even if you do that you're still subject to throttling if you're unlucky enough to wind up in their top 5%.

Yeah, Verizon 4G LTE is a bit faster than Sprint 4G Wimax, particularly on the upload side. Yeah, it's a very tempting deal, if one wants to engage in the hassle of the cough, cough routine, and run the risk of the 5% throttle.

In fact, I thought about it very seriously myself for a few weeks. But, in the end, the hassle factor was just too high.

The fact is that those are a heckuva lot of hoops to jump through for unlimited LTE. Too high-maintenance for most people.

And by the way, a Sprint tech, who sounded like he knew what he was talking about, told me that the upload cap on Sprint 4G WiMax will be lifted from 1 mbps to 5 mbps by the end of the year, making it much more competitive with LTE by doing so. However this Sprint tech (his name was Nathan) also told me, with what I thought was commendable honesty, that they still expected average upload 4G WiMax speeds to stay within .5 mbps to 1.5 mbps, which still places it south of Verizon 4G LTE.
xenophon
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Clearwire imposed the 1Mbps upload cap because they didn't want you to use the connection for web/video hosting. Now that they have competition, they need to taking away simple restrictions like that.
Crookshanks
join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY

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said by criggs:

Even if you do that you're still subject to throttling if you're unlucky enough to wind up in their top 5%.

You are only subject to throttling if you are in the top 5% AND using a base station that is congested. Verizon said as such when they announced this policy. They have no incentive to throttle you if you aren't impacting other users.

MovieLover76
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said by Crookshanks:

said by criggs:

Even if you do that you're still subject to throttling if you're unlucky enough to wind up in their top 5%.

You are only subject to throttling if you are in the top 5% AND using a base station that is congested. Verizon said as such when they announced this policy. They have no incentive to throttle you if you aren't impacting other users.

I use a lot of data and have never been throttled, I have no need for tethering most of the time, but even if you don't want to root their are non-root options like pdanet, you just can't wirelessly tether unless you root.
criggs
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said by xenophon:

Clearwire imposed the 1Mbps upload cap because they didn't want you to use the connection for web/video hosting.

In general, your posts on this forum indicate you know what you're talking about. And my gut tells me you're right about this.

But perhaps only in part.

You see, based on what Nathan told me, I'm wondering if we know the whole story here. He told me that originally there was no upload speed cap and no plans to cap the upload speed, and that the cap was an emergency stopgap measure due to unanticipated problems.

I have no doubt that it is entirely possible that their investigation of the unanticipated problems they bumped into (the problems which led them to impose the cap) may very well have led them to conclude that some subscribers were running web/video hosting.

But again, if Nathan is to be believed, it would appear they never expected a few folks doing hosting would cause this problem. It was unexpected, and the cap has always been viewed as temporary while they look for a permanent solution.

And, according to Nathan, they are "very serious" about raising that cap to 5 mbps because they are tired of being at a competitive disadvantage with Verizon's LTE.

WhoMI
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Sprint has a 5gb cap on their dongles too.
WhoMI

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Even though Sprint says they don't throttle, they do.

Look at Sprint's WiMax speed for upstream. It's throttled to 1mb/s.

Verizon should sue the pants off of Sprint for false advertising!!