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w0kie

join:2001-12-23
Tulsa, OK

[CATV] Music Choice HD - getting the cart before the horse

The Tulsa Cox Channel Lineup for April, 2011 shows that all of the Music Choice channels are available in HD on channels 851 through 896. However Cox cable tech support in OKC says they are not available "due to technical difficulties" and the Cox launch date for Tulsa is unknown.

w0kie

join:2001-12-23
Tulsa, OK

Cox gets the prize for the most fake HD channels

"Washington, D.C. (April 12, 2011) -- Cable and satellite operators have often used questionable tactics to inflate their HD channel counts, but Cox Communications may get the prize for the most questionable of all.

The cable operator yesterday issued a press release saying that it is now offering more than 100 High-Definition channels in Louisiana, including New Orleans, Baton Rouge and Acadiana. However, to surpass the 100 mark, Cox said it added 46 "High-Definition" Music Choice channels.

The problem with that? Music Choice doesn't have 46 HD channels; the music service offers 46 channels that feature audio playbacks of popular songs accompanied by still images of the album from which the song comes.

But apparently Cox is calling the 46 audio channels, video channels. And not only that, it's calling them "High-Definition" channels."

»www.tvpredictions.com/cox041211.htm

popper

join:2006-05-30
Baton Rouge,
kudos:1

reply to w0kie

Re: [CATV] Music Choice HD - getting the cart before the horse

Are they stating that the music channels are "high definition" or hybrid digital?

I've seen the "HD" music channels here locally and the only real difference between the old and the new that I could discern was that the wallpaper was a higher resolution.

w0kie

join:2001-12-23
Tulsa, OK

They are listed as "HD Channels" in the Cox HD TV group. Each Music Choice channel in the HD group has the letters "HD after the channel name.



CulDeSac

join:2007-12-01
Chandler, AZ

reply to w0kie
HD music as in 5.1?



MarkRH
Premium
join:2005-02-08
Oklahoma City, OK

Looks like it's not here yet in OKC. My music channels are in the 900s and they look SD to me and the audio is 2 channel. Receiver plays/detects them as Dolby Prologic II. Until the 800 channels appear, no way to tell if they'll be Dolby Digital 5.1 or the same it is now.

However, most of the music was probably not originally done in DD 5.1 anyway.



BryanInPHX
Premium
join:2001-03-06
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Cox HSI

reply to w0kie
Cox AZ launched the Music Choice HD channels around April 1st and had technical difficulties. The channels were not working on all nodes at first, it took about 2 weeks to get the issues resolved.

In Phoenix
Music Choice SD are all distributed as subchannels @ 567MHz in Widescreen 4:3, 480p
Music Choice HD are all distributed as subchannels @ 819MHz in 16:9, 720p with slightly better resolution, Audio seems the same to me.
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CoxJimR
Premium,VIP
join:2002-01-17
Atlanta, GA

reply to w0kie
I spoke to one of my co-workers on this who gave me some background.

As BryanInPHX See Profile points out: They are fed with HD images and graphics in 720P 16:9, so that does make them compatible with the HD standard.

I was also told we are planning more launches of Music Choice HD, and Music Choice engineers are working on correcting some issues that have arisen, affecting the signal quality. We expect that improvement within the next few weeks.

On the topic of channel count, I'll let folks here make up their own minds. I personally think when you look at what is in other providers counts, it's not unreasonable to count these.


Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

I do agree that's kinda pointless to waste HD space on audio only channels. I do enjoy the audio fidelity and if this means they will use 96/22 bit rates for their audio vs mpeg 4 then I'm in.

BUT, I wouldn't count them as HD channels as this is an audio stream with some visual information.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by Rob_:

I do agree that's kinda pointless to waste HD space on audio only channels. I do enjoy the audio fidelity and if this means they will use 96/22 bit rates for their audio vs mpeg 4 then I'm in.

BUT, I wouldn't count them as HD channels as this is an audio stream with some visual information.

there not really wasting any QAM space as they use a single QAM for transmision like most cable cos do for the regular version of the channels.

Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

Jim - how about you guys stay focused on offering 100 true HD channels. I'd glad to pay $5.00 and get the whole room DVR (once it's fixed)

I'd be interested in getting some SD channels such as TVG and HRTV (gonna miss another Kentucky Derby special..)

(and yes, Mediacom up the street has TVG)

But, thanks for helping me out! When the day comes, I'm gonna miss being a cox customer.



CoxJimR
Premium,VIP
join:2002-01-17
Atlanta, GA

said by Rob_:

Jim - how about you guys stay focused on offering 100 true HD channels. I'd glad to pay $5.00 and get the whole room DVR (once it's fixed)

We are continually working to increase our HD channel count. I don't know if or when those particular channels might be added Rob_ See Profile

Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

Well, please try to add TVG and HRTV. Those seem to be the least requested here. Now that you can gamble in FL, I'm very surprised you haven't added these here in the area that tends to be last on everything - pensacola, ft walton beach.

Thanks.


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