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WHT
join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5 | reply to Mr Matt
Re: GREED! said by Mr Matt:  Wireless carriers are employing CAPS, crippling features and overcharging customers for one reason, GREED. Wireless ISP's are essentially a monopoly so they have the power to shake down and abuse customers who have no recourse. Extreme ETF hold the customer hostage.
Whoa, Trigger....You might think it's a matter of semantics; but within the industry, a wireless carrier (cellphone company with data plan) is not the same as a Wireless ISP (WISP). The December FCC ruling set them apart further - placing WISPs under the same restrictions (of preserving net neutrality) as compared to telcos (that can impose speed throttling, caps, etc.)
The WISP market is hardly a monopoly - it's a very competitive market. A WISP can't lobby a local or state government to prohibit competition. | |
| Like buying a car and getting charged per person in it..
Yeah, it is BS ... It's like buying a car and getting charged more monthly if you have 2 people riding in it instead of 1!!! Complete crap, they have to stop this BS ...
But again, don't blame Google, blame the wireless carrier's greed and stupidity ... | |
 TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
join:2000-11-08
Da Bronx
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Clearwire Wireless
| said by cruz1 :But again, don't blame Google, blame the wireless carrier's greed and stupidity ...
I blame the consumer, who will purchase a piece of communications gear and allow someone else to dictate how it is used.
No one here would think of purchasing a PC, if their ISP could control what you did with it, and how. For some reason, purchasing a smart-phone, or tablet PC (just another style of computer) is seen as something different; when in fact it's the same thing!
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Vitelity VOIP
| said by TamaraB:No one here would think of purchasing a PC, if their ISP could control what you did with it, and how. For some reason, purchasing a smart-phone, or tablet PC (just another style of computer) is seen as something different; when in fact it's the same thing! I see your point, but people buy gaming systems like PS3s and Xbox360s that have essentially the same limitations without hesitation. When I first bought my PS3 I could run linux on it and I could rip my DVD/Blu-Ray library and watch it by streaming it on the PS3. Now they've locked out Linux and Cinavia is rapidly putting an end to using that as a media streaming device.
I think the principle difference with cell phones is they are not sold as an open computing device. Companies offer unlimited mobile data plans because they have some control over their own destiny by forcing the phones through transcoding proxies and limiting content in a way that doesn't occur when you attach a PC via tethering.
It's been the perpetual problem with consumer Internet services. These companies built out their networks so they want their subscribers to use them as much as they want, except they don't want them to use them too much. It's an inherently contradictory position, and represents a major malfunction in marketing departments in all of these companies. | |
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