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buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA

web security appliance

I'm looking for a web security appliance to do porn filtering and av and ips filtering for my home network. I have 2 game consoles, 1 imac, 1 pc, HTC Droid incredible, ipod touch and iPad.

I've got cable 22/5. Already use WiFi router so I need to connect filter appliance between router and home network so all wired and WiFi are protected.

I am not looking for a router since I already have a few, plus I work with Cisco on their eft team. So I just am looking for some sort of appliance or something.

I don't have a budget in mind.

I'd like accountability too like it being able to email notify for events happening and weekly monthly type reports too.

Thanks.
Joe


buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA

Aaaaaaaaaa


buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA
reply to buggs1a

Well?


HELLFIRE
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reply to buggs1a

In the free pile, you could look at Untangle and Endian.

Commercially, pretty much any manufacturer of UTM appliances you could look at.
Ironport, Juniper, Websense (software-only), Fortigate, etc. Don't expect it to be
cheap, obviously.

Regards


daveinpoway
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Poway, CA
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reply to buggs1a

For your home (not for business use), there is also the free version of Astaro Security Gateway (»www.astaro.com/landingpages/en-w···-homeuse). Unlike some of the other vendors who have severely crippled their home versions, the free version of ASG is pretty close to the paid (enterprise) version- only a few features (which are not needed for home use) have been left out.


buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA
reply to buggs1a

I need hardware not pc firewall. I need filter only hardware so no need for router function. Cheap as possible and no idea what has good porn filtering in an appliance.

Don't like sonicwall at all.


HELLFIRE
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said by buggs1a:

I need hardware not pc firewall.

Not exactly sure what you mean by this -- is it more accurate to say
you prefer a commercial appliance-based standalone device than a DIYer
where you assemble the hardware yourself and load the software ontop?

Regards

buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA
reply to buggs1a

Yeah, sorry, I couldda meant pc firewall, but didn't.
I need a stand alone hardware appliance, not software to install on a pc and use the pc as the router.

I've already used Untangle, nothing but problems long time ago, sonicwall won't fix certain bugs I had so after a couple years I gave up on them completely, Astaro I tried too and had issues with it over blocking or just having issues in general.

I don't have a spare pc to use for a security firewall.

I am on Ciscos beta team so I currently am using a router and don't need a router anyhow. I've got a netgear wndr3700 that has issues.

I don't think there's anything for me, but I've no clue how things look today vs when I was in the field years ago.



Doctor Olds
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said by buggs1a:

Yeah, sorry, I couldda meant pc firewall, but didn't.
I need a stand alone hardware appliance, not software to install on a pc and use the pc as the router.

You do realize that a standalone web appliance is just a solid state PC that has a OS loaded onto it chips and stored in it flash memory (its NVRAM) and it has RAM to boot up into, load the on-chip OS and then the on-chip filter software developed by the manufacturer and likely a Unix or Linux embedded derivative type system that runs from RAM which is many, many times faster than from NVRAM (just like a PC). You can likely build your own better mousetrap by hitting thrift stores, geeks.com or pawn shops for a very cheap older PC system then filter away using a software package of your choice.
--
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HELLFIRE
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Considering the move to UTM, I don't think you're going to find many standalone, singlefunction
devices these days. The Ironport S-series is the only thing I can think of off the top of my
head that will do what you're after (webfiltering), but like I said, don't expect em to be cheap
brand new.

Regards


daveinpoway
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Poway, CA
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Barracuda Networks has some web-filtering appliances, but, again, this is not an inexpensive solution.

For commercial (paid) appliances, you not only have to buy the hardware itself, but you almost always also need to purchase an annual support contract, so that you can receive updates to the firmware and detection signatures. These costs can add up quickly.

As Doctor Olds said, an inexpensive used PC with some PCI expansion cards (to provide at least 2 Ethernet ports) plus an open-source software package will be the most cost-effective solution.

I don't know if this list (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ro···ibutions) includes everything that is out there, but it lists quite a few options. Not all of these will have the filtering capabilities which you desire, but you should be able to find something here which will work for you.


buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA
reply to buggs1a

Thanks guys. I appreciate it.
The reason I want a hardware box is because I don't have a spare pc and don't want to buy one.

I forget exactly where, but I saw a Cisco wifi router that had I think, what I'm looking for, less then $400 for this one. Might be on their site, but I forget.

The reason I don't want a router is because I already have a couple and I'm on Ciscos beta team, EFT. So I'm already using a router.

I've used Untangle, Astaro, Sonicwall before. I owned a Sonicwall TZ150, TZ170w, TZ210w or something. I even owned for a year and a half the Zywall 2x I think it was back then. I liked the UI on that a lot, specially the bandwidth reporting for ports and protocol telling me how much I uploaded or downloaded, that was cool, they had end of product life for it so I got rid of it. I returned the last Sonicwall because the UI was exactly the same as before, just a different look, and they refused to fix any of the bugs I told them about. So I was sick of them and wanted nothing to do with them ever again them jerks!! Also India support was pathetic! Oh yeah, I even tried a Firebox wifi router, 5w or something, I forget. It's my favorite looking box, the red, but the GUI was pathetic. No way to turn on the filtering even though they said it had it and if you could turn it on I sure as hell couldn't find it. The support guy I talked to back then sucked too. So I returned it the next day and even spoke to the head of the GUI development in email telling him how bad the GUI was. This was a few years ago. Watchguard firebox.

I had problems with Untangle and I think I had issues with Astaro. I do think Astaro seemed better or less trouble then the others/Untangle mainly. I had a pc for Untangle and Astaro, don't anymore.

I have right now a ps3, 2 xbox 360s, 2010 21.5" imac and a Velocity micro pc and my Android HTC Droid Incredible phone, iPad and ipod touch.

What I want to do is have a device that would give me the filtering for everything except I wanna be able to leave the gaming untouched. Since obviously they're not able to browse the net, cept ps3.

I looked at Astaro web site a couple days ago and even tried the online demo. I liked it a lot. I used to have it and liked it a lot too. I don't have a spare pc so I wonder if I can run it on my mac as a virual OS, but there's no vmware player and I'm not going to buy vmware fusion or anything. But yeah, I would have a pc for Astaro.

I do have a place locally called Re-PC with pcs that are used and old. They sell like intel 10/100 nic for like $4-$10 and pcs for less then $225. I know I can go that route for Astaro or whatever else. However here's a small issue.

I will need help with the software and can't afford to pay. I can't even afford a used pc, but I would if I had to. I'm on disability cus I can't or don't work and it's mental, permanent with my ADHD, Tourette and whatever, so I get paid monthly, but am paying my bills and that's it. that'll last for at least another 8 months or so maybe. Just to let y'all know my situation. Astaro is free which rocks!! But I have no idea if it'll do what I'm after. Not being a router, but able to give me the security for all my wired and wifi devices.


HELLFIRE
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This?

Second daveinpoway's comments about the direction you want to go with this solution.
In addition to the outlay for the hardware itself, take into account the annual support
contract subscription fees for the signature updates.

Don't have any other suggestions for how you could try out Astaro without a spare PC
to run it on. Sounds like it would work for you, just not enough resources to take the
next step on it...

Regards


buggs1a

join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA
reply to buggs1a

Yeah that one.