 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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Re: Cable has to recoup costs of lost TV subscribers said by Karl Bode:There are a million ways for an ISP to make money without imposing new, unnecessary overage-driven pricing that's incredibly unpopular among consumers. Price increases are unpopular? Really? Shocking.
Average broadband usage is still just south of 15GB/mo, so the vast majority of folks aren't going to see any impact on their bill whatsoever. |
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| Price increases are unpopular? Really? Shocking. Average broadband usage is still just south of 15GB/mo, so the vast majority of folks aren't going to see any impact on their bill whatsoever. |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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| said by Karl Bode:The move isn't about the users of today, as I imagine you know.
This just makes the outcry about lacking evidence of congestion today even more ridiculous.
Usage today is too low to trigger any of these extra fees, and is also low enough to avoid causing major contention for bandwidth. |
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1 edit | This just makes the outcry about lacking evidence of congestion today even more ridiculous. Usage today is too low to trigger any of these extra fees |
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 56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
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Re: Cable has to recoup costs of lost TV subscribers said by espaeth:Average broadband usage is still just south of 15GB/mo, so the vast majority of folks aren't going to see any impact on their bill whatsoever.
Where do you get your figures from? My wife and I use 50-60 GB per month and we do not stream HD video, do P2P or anything anyone would consider high-bandwidth unless you think a 128 kbps audio stream is "excessive".
Maybe people who only watch an occasional Youtube video stay south of 15 gigs but I suspect your number is on the low end of the bell curve. |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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| said by 56403739:Where do you get your figures from? Right here: »www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/co···_WP.html
Or here: »transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Release···02A1.pdf
said by 56403739:My wife and I use 50-60 GB per month and we do not stream HD video, do P2P or anything anyone would consider high-bandwidth unless you think a 128 kbps audio stream is "excessive". You're also posting to a forum called DSLReports / BroadBandReports, so you don't really match a demographic that represents the average broadband subscriber. As you have found this forum, you're more likely to be engaged in online activities that would lead to higher usage. |
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56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
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kudos:2 | Your assumptions about me and mine are totally faulty. I can say with certainty that my usage is very representative of those in my neighborhood and most if not all of my peers. None of them know what "broadband reports" even is.
So, do you consider having two computers connected to the Internet an activity that would lead to higher usage? An occasional Netflix SD movie? Internet radio streaming? Email? That doesn't include any iCrap or servers, gaming or other data suckers. I know you feel it necessary to defend your industry at any cost but at least try to do it with some integrity. |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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| said by 56403739:Your assumptions about me and mine are totally faulty. And yet your usage is higher than the baseline average.
said by 56403739:I know you feel it necessary to defend your industry at any cost but at least try to do it with some integrity.
It's not my industry -- I have no interest in defending it. I'm simply injecting some facts into the conversation, or what I believe to be facts because the data correlates across numerous studies. For another data point, take this study of broadband usage out of Japan where FTTH is the norm: »www.caida.org/workshops/wide-cas···ffic.pdf
Even if you factor in Netflix traffic, which has the greatest statistical likelihood of being the largest consumer of bandwidth of the applications you identified, the numbers still don't add up to a reflect a majority of broadband subscribers.
The OECD places US wired broadband connections at 83,344,927. (Source: »www.oecd.org/document/54/0,3746,···,00.html) Netflix has 23 million subscribers across the US and Canada (Source: »ir.netflix.com/).
Even if all 23 million Netflix subscribers were from the US, and 100% of them were streaming on a regular basis, and all of that streaming only occurred over fixed broadband connections.. that's still only about 28% of broadband users streaming Netflix video content. The real numbers are obviously much lower than that.
The use cases where people are creating high demand still are in the minority. |
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