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Woody79_00
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reply to mmay149q

Re: Sprint

same here

if they force me off my Unlimited data, then i'll take my 150+ dollars a month elsewhere


woody7
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I just got an Inspire phone through ATT, got the 2 gig data plan, which isn't much, but between the wifi, and pass through internet option ( kind of like tethering ) don't use much of the wireless other than calls. this country sucks when it comes to wireless.
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south1178
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You're grandfathered in.


Skipdawg
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reply to Woody79_00
I left AT&T for their nonsense. If this is happening with VW then yes I'll go to Sprint too and if they do it I'll just go to a simple prepaid burn phone and say the heck with it all. I kept my land line for a reason. I saw them ALL getting stupid.

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reply to south1178
Agreed. Everyone that has unlimited now will be grandfathered. Though, at some point, they'll figure out a way to get you un-grandfathered.

Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

It's like my 3G data card. Grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. They'll have to pry that account from my cold, dead hands. And if they do, I'll just turn it off.


woody7
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Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

I refer to that as a dumb phone, wink wink, was thinking of doing that my self. When the $hit hits the fan with these unrealistic caps, maybe just maybe they will get the point. not holding breath
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Mr Ray

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reply to ke4pym
I wouldn't be so sure about the grandfathering. I just received an email from verizon about my account that says that they made a mistake with the original contract and it appears that they are trying to change the contract terms mid-stream. It will be interesting to see where this shim sham ploy will go!!!!!!!!!!!


Razzy12345

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reply to ke4pym
I bet once you upgrade to a new phone, you won't get that grandfathered plan anymore.


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reply to ke4pym
said by ke4pym:

Agreed. Everyone that has unlimited now will be grandfathered. Though, at some point, they'll figure out a way to get you un-grandfathered.

Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

It's like my 3G data card. Grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. They'll have to pry that account from my cold, dead hands. And if they do, I'll just turn it off.

To which case, if they ungrandfather you, you have a right to terminate your contract with no fee. I haven't seen a company do that yet. My sister has been on a grandfathered plan with Sprint for a long time now without them terminating that plan.
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ke4pym
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said by Razzy12345 :

I bet once you upgrade to a new phone, you won't get that grandfathered plan anymore.

I dunno. I would venture a guess that when my Thunderbolt craps out and I get, say, a Thunderbolt 2 that unlimited plan would transfer. Unless they do something like "get a hotspot, lose your unlimited plan" like AT&T does.

If I were to switch my 3G data card to a 4G card, then I get capped. The lady at the VZW store agreed with me that it'd be nuts to give up that plan I've got.


Alpha Phoenix
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said by ke4pym:

Agreed. Everyone that has unlimited now will be grandfathered. Though, at some point, they'll figure out a way to get you un-grandfathered.

Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

It's like my 3G data card. Grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. They'll have to pry that account from my cold, dead hands. And if they do, I'll just turn it off.

I have unlimited data right now, but will that change if I have to extend my contract another 2 years if I want to get the Samsung Galaxy S II, or will they keep me grandfathered in?
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Razzy12345

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reply to ke4pym
You'd probably get a refurb Thunderbolt. But what I am saying is, if you want to upgrade to a phone like uh Thunderbolt 2, it's likely you'd have to change to new data plan. If you keep your Thunderbolt for 5 years, you'll keep that unlimited plan.

That's how Sprint is doing with their $10 increase on data plan. My Samsung Moment is $30/mo until I upgrade to a new phone then I'll get $40/mo unlimited plan.


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said by ke4pym:

said by Razzy12345 :

I bet once you upgrade to a new phone, you won't get that grandfathered plan anymore.

I dunno. I would venture a guess that when my Thunderbolt craps out and I get, say, a Thunderbolt 2 that unlimited plan would transfer. Unless they do something like "get a hotspot, lose your unlimited plan" like AT&T does.

If I were to switch my 3G data card to a 4G card, then I get capped. The lady at the VZW store agreed with me that it'd be nuts to give up that plan I've got.

It will transfer because you are just changing phones. Once again, you are extending your existing contract. Now, if you change anything to do with your data plan, then that changes your contract.
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Teddeli

join:2006-12-06
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reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall:

said by ke4pym:

Agreed. Everyone that has unlimited now will be grandfathered. Though, at some point, they'll figure out a way to get you un-grandfathered.

Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

It's like my 3G data card. Grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. They'll have to pry that account from my cold, dead hands. And if they do, I'll just turn it off.

To which case, if they ungrandfather you, you have a right to terminate your contract with no fee. I haven't seen a company do that yet. My sister has been on a grandfathered plan with Sprint for a long time now without them terminating that plan.

Don't think you"ll have the right to terminate since data is considered an add on and not part of your plan


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said by Teddeli:

said by Nightfall:

said by ke4pym:

Agreed. Everyone that has unlimited now will be grandfathered. Though, at some point, they'll figure out a way to get you un-grandfathered.

Should that point come, I'll just get a plain ole no-data-at-all-phone.

It's like my 3G data card. Grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. They'll have to pry that account from my cold, dead hands. And if they do, I'll just turn it off.

To which case, if they ungrandfather you, you have a right to terminate your contract with no fee. I haven't seen a company do that yet. My sister has been on a grandfathered plan with Sprint for a long time now without them terminating that plan.

Don't think you"ll have the right to terminate since data is considered an add on and not part of your plan

AT&T users are currently grandfathered in if they have unlimited data. Any change to a contract in the past is always considered to be a breech and you can opt out at that time for no penalty. Read up on the contract you signed through Verizon. Any change to the data portion is a change to your contract. Which is why Verizon will grandfather users in. All new contracts signed will be hit with the new structure. This is fine because not many people will hang around on the same contract. Some people will jump providers or drop data use.
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tiffyj

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reply to ke4pym
i just got a text saying i could upgrade early, im guessing that will be the catch... when you upgrade they will enforce the new rules to your newly extended contract....


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said by tiffyj :

i just got a text saying i could upgrade early, im guessing that will be the catch... when you upgrade they will enforce the new rules to your newly extended contract....

Helps if you read the contract you signed. Phone upgrades extend your contract, not replace it. The only way data gets changed from unlimited to the new plan is if you change your data plan or eliminate it and then add it back later.
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dvd536
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reply to Woody79_00
said by Woody79_00:

same here

if they force me off my Unlimited data, then i'll take my 150+ dollars a month elsewhere

Where exactly are you going when EVERYONES rape n' gouge?
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hottboiinnc
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reply to Nightfall
Not always true. If you take the promo price for the phone- you lose your current contract and MUST sign a new one that is offered. if you pay full price for that phone then YES your current plan will be there. you can NOT transfer your current plan to a new phone that you get under promo. ALL carriers do not allow that and actually say "NEW contracts ONLY".

hottboiinnc
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reply to Nightfall
Again; not true. Just because you change your DATA it is NOT required for the phone and is an Add-on service to the phone. It states that. You can change your data plan at anytime without changing your contract. All carriers and customers know that. The only thing is once you change to unlimited you can never get it back if its not offered.

hottboiinnc
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reply to Alpha Phoenix
if you pay promo pricing for that phone NO you will NOT get to keep your current contract. You will get a new plan that is offered. If you pay FULL price for the phone; you'll get to keep your plan.

hottboiinnc
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reply to Nightfall
if you upgrade your phone under the Promo price you get a NEW contract 99% of the time. You will NOT just extend your contract. Those prices are for NEW customers.


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reply to Alpha Phoenix

Galaxy s2

Don't be in too much of a rush the Galaxy S II currently is a GSM only model phone and on evil ATT band none the less... ( dosen't mean they wont make a cdma version down the line).

Also im sure if Verizon wants to ( be dirty like ATT) they will change your TOS and wiggle in some BS if you upgrade, you can keep your unlimited talk and text, but you can NOT keep your unlimited DATA.


spork

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reply to woody7

Re: Sprint

This assumes the availability of a no-data phone and an no-data plan. The last time I swapped phones on my ~$8/mo. 50 minute legacy employee plan, they informed me that I had just performed my last swap. You had better believe I take good care of that phone.


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said by hottboiinnc:

Not always true. If you take the promo price for the phone- you lose your current contract and MUST sign a new one that is offered. if you pay full price for that phone then YES your current plan will be there. you can NOT transfer your current plan to a new phone that you get under promo. ALL carriers do not allow that and actually say "NEW contracts ONLY".

Now I have Verizon service for My Phone, I recently had to replace said phone at My own cost, As It had no insurance, the old phone had gotten washed by accident as I was in a hurry cause of some reasons that were compelling Me to hurry, In any case I replaced the phone with one I bought off of ebay($11.13 I think & that includes shipping), which works just fine, Now I don't have a data or internet plan as I just use the Samsung sch-u540 as a phone as that's all I need, I have a PC for internet after all. The used sch-u540 was put on My contract as if It was the original, Which still partly works, It just can't detect the Verizon network and It eats the battery like crazy, Even when the cover is closed as the phone stays on... So now I have a spare battery and battery cover. Of course service where I live could be better, But then I live under a metal roof which probably doesn't help much.


iLive4Fusion
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reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:

if you pay promo pricing for that phone NO you will NOT get to keep your current contract. You will get a new plan that is offered. If you pay FULL price for the phone; you'll get to keep your plan.

Typically they do grandfather old plan's. Sprint and Verizon have for me, and if you switch phone's you shouldn't lose your Unlimited 4G data on VZW to anyone who's worried. Once you have it they will likely follow in AT&T's footsteps and grandfather it in. It's not like older CDMA phones, to switch devices all you do is stick you SIM card into the new device.

Heck, I have put my Droid Charge SIM into my Pantech UML290 and had working 4G LTE data without any problems, though they will likely block that from working, but not device switching.
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said by iLive4Fusion:

said by hottboiinnc:

if you pay promo pricing for that phone NO you will NOT get to keep your current contract. You will get a new plan that is offered. If you pay FULL price for the phone; you'll get to keep your plan.

Typically they do grandfather old plan's. Sprint and Verizon have for me, and if you switch phone's you shouldn't lose your Unlimited 4G data on VZW to anyone who's worried. Once you have it they will likely follow in AT&T's footsteps and grandfather it in. It's not like older CDMA phones, to switch devices all you do is stick you SIM card into the new device.

This is what I have been saying.

As long as you keep your contract, they can't change it. Therefore, even if you switch phones, you aren't changing your current contract. You are just extending it. If they decide to change your data plan for you to this new one, then you have grounds to terminate without paying an ETF.

With Sprint thinking about following the lead of data caps too, I really don't see a reason to jump ship to another carrier. I use less than 2gb per month even with tethering. Tmobile is offering 5gb for the same price. If Verizon steps up to the plate and offers the same, I wouldn't break a sweat if I was signing up as a new customer. As it is now, I am grandfathered in, so I don't have to worry about these caps.
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rlittlemuel

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when i got unlimited broadband card at time it was card, i was told i would always have unlimited and be on the newest, fastest system as long as i bought the equipment. now with 4 g i am told not the case. still will have unlimited but will always be on 3g and i was lied to. this has me so upset as i stuck around for this reason and again was lied to.


south1178
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said by rlittlemuel :

when i got unlimited broadband card at time it was card, i was told i would always have unlimited and be on the newest, fastest system as long as i bought the equipment. now with 4 g i am told not the case. still will have unlimited but will always be on 3g and i was lied to. this has me so upset as i stuck around for this reason and again was lied to.

Lied to by who? VZW salesmen will tell you anything to make a sale. We know more about releases and updates before they do.
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vurnun2

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reply to dvd536
probably back to cable and other phone providers for the unlimited plans they would otherwise miss for data.. Though personally, I dont have cell phones and think that for data needs, they dont cut it. I use data on my computer, thus I never saw the need for data services on my cell - esp since they dont do a good cross-over to my PC, So even when I had a cell phone, I ususally did not bother with data services for them.

But then , thats me and others with computers tht re not integrated with the cell phone...