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FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to BlueC

Re: Educate the consumers

said by BlueC:

Further regulation might make it, more, difficult for new companies to jump into the industry. It's quite backwards as-is, but I don't see how more laws/regulation will improve things because most of the larger ISPs will just have a way to have loopholes in place to get around most of it.

Gov't regulation is almost always a failure in keeping prices in line or creating competition. And that is because regulated companies and their armies of lawyers and lobbyists ALWAYS find a way of manipulating the regulators in to rulings advantageous to those being regulated. And to add to that failure to create competition, the other government side effect is loss of innovation as companies spend more time and money manipulating the regulators than they do on research and development.
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WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
said by FFH5:

said by BlueC:

Further regulation might make it, more, difficult for new companies to jump into the industry. It's quite backwards as-is, but I don't see how more laws/regulation will improve things because most of the larger ISPs will just have a way to have loopholes in place to get around most of it.

Gov't regulation is almost always a failure in keeping prices in line or creating competition. And that is because regulated companies and their armies of lawyers and lobbyists ALWAYS find a way of manipulating the regulators in to rulings advantageous to those being regulated. And to add to that failure to create competition, the other government side effect is loss of innovation as companies spend more time and money manipulating the regulators than they do on research and development.

Sure. Let the crooks "compete" and "innovate", we see the results all over the US, the country that INVENTED the Internet. Worked real well. When countries like South Korea and Japan kick our ass while we are spoon fed the corporate propaganda by the providers and their shills I have the utmost faith that giving them freedom to "innovate" will turn even way better.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to FFH5
Its simple as this:

Government owns backbones ("dumb pipes") throughout the country then it leases to telcos. Anybody can rent and provide end line service to a house through a national telco. Suppose country has 3 national telcos with 1 (A) having 60% control and other 2 (B, C) 20% each. Company has to share its end lines with B,C and B,C have to share their end lines with A. They get reimbursed for it. Then you have virtual providers joining in game, hundreds of them, at least tens in market. Thats how the market should be with dsl, vdsl, ftth. Cablecos are forced to compete and lower prices. Everybody benefits but nobody dominates the market.

This model works in most european countries since traditionally there was one national provider originally run by government and later privatized and regulated.

The U.S had MA Bell like most other countries in the beginning, laying down and owning the copper but its fate met with a different course in history. Can anybody please give insight into this?