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hm

@videotron.ca
reply to Gone

Re: ikTel Networks - Niagara ISP

said by Gone:

It's BS. That much is so obvious that it's not even funny.

Their reputation that will go down in flames due to this single factor being reported by them here and on their site.

*If* this is all BS, they will be in the category of Cable-Gator that all will see here.

Again, someone should be posting this to Geist.

sperelthegoo

join:2013-06-02
reply to Gone

Lol of course it is bit getting the chance to make Alan squirm makes spreading the story worth it



Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to hm

It's BS. That much is so obvious that it's not even funny.



hm

@videotron.ca
reply to sperelthegoo

said by sperelthegoo:

I let Torrent Freak and Tech Dirt know, torrent freak already tweeted me back for more info

Of course... »Re: ikTel Networks - Niagara ISP

I mean... it's either a hunk of BS or not. And if it isn't BS, this is very big news that everyone will want to know and run with.

K. Bode should be getting on the horn with these people to break it first.

1) Let's assume this is true...

2) Let's assume it isn't just due to IkTel.

Removing the IkTel factor, which could be as stated here »Re: ikTel Networks - Niagara ISP, I can not see a blockade due to p2p.

BUT, there is a dropped hint in the guys MSG about moving back to Canadian IP blocks.

Does this mean he had American IP blocks and Canadians were accessing the likes of American Hulu to get decent streams that they can't get in Canada?

It does raise a question. More than one.

Did a Canadian ISP (and the incumbent Canadian ISP's here run/control all TV here, such as the likes Cogeco) have a hand in this "warez blockage" since it affects their TV revenue?

Is that why they have to jump back to "Canadian IP blocks"?

What's the story here? What's going on?

There is potential that this is indeed true.

Type of thing I would also send to Dr. Michael Geist. He would run with this for sure seeing as how Bell, Cogeco, Rogers, Videotron, Shaw et al. want to lock up TV tighter than a nuns knee's (though i have a met a few nuns that... but that's another story..).

I see a few scenario's assuming this is true, and assuming the "why" factor.

Potential story here with IkTel in the centre of it.

Up to IkTel to come forward. This type of news is free publicity for their services. Dumb to hide from it as they are doing. ...the hiding from it leads to people stating it's all BS and an excuse for shoddy service.

sperelthegoo

join:2013-06-02
reply to Hm

I let Torrent Freak and Tech Dirt know, torrent freak already tweeted me back for more info



Hm

@videotron.ca
reply to Gone


Warez Blockade on Canadians
*shrug*
Maybe someone should inform Karl Bode anyhow?

This "non-Canadian blockade" of a Canadian ISP due to warez needs to be known by all!

Also, it appears (per the image above) Cogeco is apparently able to circumvent this foreign warez blockage on Canadians, but can't due to having no staff on the weekend to circumvent this foreign warez blockade.

No one works weekends at Cogeco. How about that...


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to Hm

said by Hm :

Info. We need more info!

Good luck with that.


hm

@videotron.ca
reply to tonydp

said by tonydp:

Why does my modem need to be "released" by iktel before start can access it?

Release the MAC address of the device in all likelihood? Otherwise Rogers or Cogeco (or whoever) will not activate the device on another service provider since the device is in use elsewhere. No?

I thought people could call Rogers or Cogeco themselves to do this...


Hm

@videotron.ca
reply to Gone

said by Gone:

said by Hm :

Since what the owner of IkTel is so vague. There can only be one conclusion as to why...

I'm sure Mark VE3JMR will come out and say something soon enough.

Well... It's on their webpage.

Someone should contact the owner. This would be some significant news in the Canadian broadband scene, and even the warez scene.

Would be a DSLr front page item for sure.

Entire Canadian ISP wholesaler shut down due to users warez habits

It would make torrent freak, slashdot, techdirt, bOINGbOING, everywhere... It would likely even make the Telecom summit.

Someone contact the guy and find out more info. Who shut off all Canadian users and a Canadian ISP. CIPPIC would likely get involved as would the CCLA!

Chop-Chop. Very Hot item here. Lets get to it and show the world what went down, who did it, and who was behind it.

Or... or was it a lie

I mean... something like this you don't lie about since he should know every major group in Canada would be looking at this... Something like this just doesn't quietly go away and never heard of again...

Info. We need more info!

tonydp

join:2011-07-24
St Catharines, ON

1 edit
reply to FiagaraNalls

Why does my modem need to be "released" by iktel before start can access it? My concern is it won't happen. I tried getting start to transfer my service after the last outaged and save $50 but there was no response by iktel and so I just cancelled. Stupid mistake on my part.



Gone
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Fort Erie, ON
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reply to Hm

said by Hm :

Since what the owner of IkTel is so vague. There can only be one conclusion as to why...

I'm sure Mark VE3JMR will come out and say something soon enough.


Hm

@videotron.ca
reply to loyd

said by loyd:

If someone upstream really turned entire IKTEL off because some customers are allegedly downloading copyrighted files, I think IKTEL would have strong case to bite that vendor extremely hard.

Since what the owner of IkTel is so vague. There can only be one conclusion as to why...

1. He used the B/W he is sitting on, as an ISP, to Ddos someone or some company.

2. He is using the B/W he is sitting on, as an ISP, to run a torrent site with his resources. Maybe even out of 151 front street!

3. With the B/W he is sitting on, as an ISP, he is running a pay-for access-FTP site and got nailed.

I can only see it being one of all of those. Otherwise there would be "no block" due to users. It would be a North American first.

So, I have come to the conclusions it is IkTel themselves, not the users who are being charged with this. But who knows...


hm

@videotron.ca
reply to iamdrumming

said by iamdrumming:

That's what Gone is here for, to spam for other ISP's in the ikTel thread.

Gone is a lot of things (and more )... But spamming.. hmm... nah. He's not a fanboi spammer type.

tonydp

join:2011-07-24
St Catharines, ON
reply to FiagaraNalls

I'm leaving for Start. Just put the order in. It's the same price so no big deal. I just need to get iktel to release my modem.



Gone
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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to loyd

I think it's far more likely that you aren't being told the truth.


loyd

join:2012-09-24
Niagara Falls, ON
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reply to fry guy

44hrs no internet and counting.

Why is there no media coverage and lawsuit similar as in Canipre vs Teksavvy ?

If someone upstream really turned entire IKTEL off because some customers are allegedly downloading copyrighted files, I think IKTEL would have strong case to bite that vendor extremely hard. This is not the police state and this is not how things are done in Canada, we don't shut down entire city with 600k population just because there may be one criminal on the loose and we don't disconnect the ISP because a customers may be downloading copyrighted content.



Gone
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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to iamdrumming

Looks like you Internet connection finally came back up, eh?


iamdrumming

join:2003-06-08
Niagara Falls, ON
reply to Gone

said by Gone:

Yeah. Just as legit as the people who claim they've never had any service interruptions.

I never said I never experienced any downtimes. ikTel obviously hasn't been up 24/7, 365 days a year, and I know that. Obviously you can't read. I agree this is BS. I wouldn't be surprised to seeing people leave ikTel in droves after this fiasco. That's what Gone is here for, to spam for other ISP's in the ikTel thread.


fry guy

@qc.ca
reply to Gone

Let's give Alan Ik some credit, we complained about no communication , now we get it. Step two is communication that isn't clearly a lie



Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to bunting

Yeah. Just as legit as the people who claim they've never had any service interruptions.



bunting

@qc.ca
reply to dbott67

So let me get this straight, someone blocked iktel worth no notice or warning whatsoever. Seems legit



Le Who

@videotron.ca
reply to dbott67

Who exactly is blocking IkTel (an ISP/ISP-reseller) for p2p downloads and copyright infringement?

Cogeco?

Guy gave a pretty vague response...



Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to FiagaraNalls



The comedy of errors continues.



dbott67

join:2011-11-15
St Catharines, ON
reply to SRidge

This is posted on his website:

"We are currently experiencing some issues with our Cable internet services due to allegations of Internet Abuses;
such as bittorrent downloads, copyright infringements and the likes which has resulted in some blockade. We are trying to switch to our Canadian ip blocks to resolve this. Please bear with us!."

I also sent him an email this morning and got this reply:

"Yes; because some of the ports have been blocked
We are trying to get COGECO Cable to make the necessary changes.
Please bear with us

Thanks"



SRidge

@rogers.com
reply to Drawing

coming up on that 24hr mark :S ... still down, dont think they are answering their phones.



Drawing

@rogers.com
reply to nf905

Called but got the machine. They said they are working on it. I left a harsh message this is at least the 4th time in a year and we aren't talking a few minutes we are talking hours that lead to a full day.



nf905

@rogers.com
reply to FiagaraNalls

Ive down since last night. still not up (June 1st). Niagara Falls



SRidge

@167.187.100.x
reply to SadNoNet

Anyone called em yet? I've been at work and unable to. Also down at drummond rd. in the falls



SadNoNet

@datavalet.net
reply to Su

Down in Fort Erie sometime about 4:45pm.



Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
reply to FiagaraNalls

Queue someone saying they're not down, how dare anyone say that they're down and that you're all a bunch of trolls in 3... 2... 1...