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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
Tampa, FL

[Internet] Best Routers for Bridged Networks

There has been a few pages in the »Get The Most Out Of Your Wideband Connection thread about which routers are best for those bridging there BHN cable modems.

@ispgeek and myself have recently purchased the ASUS RT-N56U (available from Amazon for $130, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049YQVHE ). So far this router, which runs 802.11n in the 2.4 & 5GHz ranges simultaneously, is nothing short of incredible (for a router, that is).

@ispgeek ran some tests, here is the info quoted from the other thread:

So far so good. I maxed out my Netflix connections at 6 and only stopped there because I ran out of accounts to use (had to borrow from everyone in the family as I'm limited to only two streams at once) and it didn't even phase that bugger especially with everything else going on with that connection. I imagine the guys at DD-WRT are working hard to port a version for it as well but honestly the UI isn't all that bad and it's packed with features already. Pretty much anything you can think of is already covered in the stock UI.

Here are my last speed test (off my site) results with it...it just doesn't get much better than this folks...

»mcs.ispgeeks.net/myspeed/db/report?id=446383


mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI

$130 for a home router... that's a tough sell even for me.



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said by mix:

$130 for a home router... that's a tough sell even for me.

Mix this is actually cheap compared to similar class residential routers with half the capabilities and power. I don't know what you pay for a router but when it comes to routers you almost always get about what you pay for. You wouldn't buy a Yugo to run a NASCAR race.
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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
Tampa, FL

@Mix, this is probably not for the normal mom & pop who check email and do a bit of surfing but if you are running RR Lightning with a combination of wired and several wireless devices, this is the router for you.

With these households you would probably be streaming video wirelessly to a Boxee, Roku or ATV2 while possibly having someone on a wireless gaming system. This is the type of router that allows you to get the most out of all of these SIMULTANEOUSLY in DUAL-MODE. Both of these are significant and very rare in a router at even this price.


bhnbussol

join:2010-06-16
Port Orange, FL

i have just finished been testing a netgear wndr3800 a 600mbps wireless n its super fast!!!

good router has ability to setup 3 different dns settings and many other features ie wireless repeater, wap feature, ect.

side note usb has functionality to put a usb hub and run a printer and a usb hard drive



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Please check your model number as I don't show the wndr3800 as being available yet. Also if it's anything like the previous model wndr3700 I would advise a serious hands off for now on that bugger. Now it's slated to be called the N600 but this is actually nothing more than a rebranded WNDR3700 (also called an N600 by some) with a few extra features...
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bhnbussol

join:2010-06-16
Port Orange, FL

I have 40x5 with my modem bridged and the 3800 is issueing dhcp and I have not had to reset my modem once since installed I was always having to reset my old netgear. 10 dollar piece of router junk



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said by bhnbussol:

I have 40x5 with my modem bridged and the 3800 is issueing dhcp and I have not had to reset my modem once since installed I was always having to reset my old netgear. 10 dollar piece of router junk

Look up cable386. I'm fairly sure you have your model # wrong based on what I know about the pending release of the 3800 or the NEW version of the N600. What you have is the 3700 as the 3800 has not been released.
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mix

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reply to FTBoomer
You can be assured someone like myself gets the most bang for their buck when it comes to computer hardware.



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said by mix:

You can be assured someone like myself gets the most bang for their buck when it comes to computer hardware.

Okay then please tell us what you would pay for a excellent residential router and give make and model as your example.
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Diablo

join:2007-09-17
Kissimmee, FL
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I believe ASUS new router is a great choice,Im using the RT-N16. the only con to that router is the firmware from ASUS it wasn't stable even after releasing 4 updates.but for us mod freaks installing Tomato USB and its running really smooth.Its a beast on hardware.

@ispgeek you made a wise choice buying the new ASUS model.
Im putting my money on that one and at $130 its really cheap
comparing similar models from Netgear and LInksys that avareage
$150 or more



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Yea I'm excited to see the DDWRT port for it once it's done. Being a true linux box it shouldn't be that hard once they dive into it. Rumor has it they already have a test unit...just need to find the time to port I would imagine. So far the N56 has been rock solid and zero problems even with the stock firmware. Sometimes I think people expect things to be perfect on these boxes and what they don't realize is that they are no different than routers costing 30x this much when it comes to firmware/software. There will always be issues and patches the only difference is that SLA on a commercial box demands that immediate fixes happen whereas residential boxes are fixed when they are fixed unless it's a huge issue.

So far the N56 has proven itself to be a solid box, animal like speed and easy as hell on the wallet for the features. Gamers should take a real close look at the N56 in my opinion.

Uptime: 10days 15hours 8minutes 32seconds

Not a single lockup or reboot except for the last time I made changes to the box.

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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
Tampa, FL

reply to FTBoomer
So I updated my firmware to 1.0.1.4 this morning and then set my 2.4 to g only and my 5GHz to n only. Everything's working great. Love this ASUS router.


bhnbussol

join:2010-06-16
Port Orange, FL

reply to BHNtechXpert
i was under a beta test for netgear isp. do you wanna pic of it? or a screen shot of the login page?



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said by bhnbussol:

i was under a beta test for netgear isp. do you wanna pic of it? or a screen shot of the login page?

Everything I know about the 3800 says that this is just a rebranded 3700. Given the current issues with the 3700 I'm not comfortable in recommending either model and since the 3800 is in beta only even more so with that model.
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FTBoomer

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@ispgeek What are you using for your uplink speed? Did you leave it at the measured speed or did you add a manual number? If so, what did you use?

Odd terminology "uplink". When I hear uplink, I think upload speed vs download speed.

I love watching the network traffic real-time display on this ASUS router. Interesting traffic patterns on Netflix streaming.



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said by FTBoomer:

@ispgeek What are you using for your uplink speed? Did you leave it at the measured speed or did you add a manual number? If so, what did you use?

Odd terminology "uplink". When I hear uplink, I think upload speed vs download speed.

I love watching the network traffic real-time display on this ASUS router. Interesting traffic patterns on Netflix streaming.

As I understand it that is what it's for ... upload/uplink capability. I set mine manually to the correct setting which is 5mbps.
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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
Tampa, FL

In the EzQOS setting tab, the help section says this:

About EzQoS
EZQoS provides 4 types of popular Internet applications and enables you to easily configure your Quality of Service (QoS) settings. QoS ensures the performance of the Internet download speed and enables you to change its settings in different scenarios.
EX. Application you choose will remain the quality and will not lag even when you use P2P.

If your uplink speed has reached 40MB/s, we suggest you need not enable EzQoS for saving system resource.



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said by FTBoomer:

In the EzQOS setting tab, the help section says this:

About EzQoS
EZQoS provides 4 types of popular Internet applications and enables you to easily configure your Quality of Service (QoS) settings. QoS ensures the performance of the Internet download speed and enables you to change its settings in different scenarios.
EX. Application you choose will remain the quality and will not lag even when you use P2P.

If your uplink speed has reached 40MB/s, we suggest you need not enable EzQoS for saving system resource.

I think this is an example of a GUI quirk. That particular setting is for uplink only and you can easily check it because the number it comes up with automatically is closer to your uplink cap vss downlink.
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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
Tampa, FL

@ispgeek Open the EzQos > Traffic Monitor > Internet In a separate window, run the BHN network speedtest. Halfway through, jump back over to the router window (make sure Real-Time was selected first).

In the Internet tab, downlink is the greeater value spike but in the LAN or Wired tabs, uplink is the high value,

So, based on this and the bolded sentence above, I'm not sure what to think. I understand what you're saying about the measured speed and mine is 2.3 which is way to low. Just find it odd and am looking for a truer explanation (not from you, from them, ASUS)

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