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mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI
reply to FTBoomer

Re: [Internet] Best Routers for Bridged Networks

I stand by my claim. It will route data over 50 Mbps.



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said by mix:

I stand by my claim. It will route data over 50 Mbps.

LOL! Well I'm assuming this is the router you have Mix. Next time you post a complaint about buffering or other issues I'll be sure to take this into consideration.
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mix

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Utica, MI

This is not the router I have.



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said by mix:

This is not the router I have.

Then how do you know it's an effective piece of equipment as it applies to this thread mix? If this is the case then it appears you are just posting for the purpose of argument which is contrary to the purpose of the thread. I would hope that you would be considerate enough to respect that and to appreciate the purpose of the thread is to discuss effective devices based on personal or professional experience....not hypothetical situations.
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mix

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You guys are apparently recommending a buggy $130 router with a Ralink chipset that is nothing more than a niche product.

I've provided an example of something that is 1/5 the price that has proven firmware and proven performance, whether I own this particular model or not. There are over 30 router models in existence from various manufacturers that use this same chipset and it is supported by every major 3rd party firmware. Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people use this particular type of router. The 3rd party firmwares available for this platform have many more users/testers and are consequently more mature than a single proprietary firmware for a particular Asus model router. There is nothing hypothetical about my argument. Speed and/or potential does not equal "best" in my book. Tried and true and cheap do. This is only my opinion.



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said by mix:

You guys are apparently recommending a buggy $130 router with a Ralink chipset that is nothing more than a niche product.

I've provided an example of something that is 1/5 the price that has proven firmware and proven performance, whether I own this particular model or not. There are over 30 router models in existence from various manufacturers that use this same chipset and it is supported by every major 3rd party firmware. Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people use this particular type of router. The 3rd party firmwares available for this platform have many more users/testers and are consequently more mature than a single proprietary firmware for a particular Asus model router. There is nothing hypothetical about my argument. Speed and/or potential does not equal "best" in my book. Tried and true and cheap do. This is only my opinion.

And your opinion is based on a product you've never even owned Mix and worse a substandard non standards compliant product at that BY THE MFR"S OWN STATEMENT.

*The device leverages some 802.11n features to provide improved performance and coverage compared to 802.11a/g devices, and fully interoperate with 802.11n products, but it does not conform to all of the requirements in the IEEE specification and are not classified as "n" in the Wi-Fi CERTIFIED program.
»www.tp-link.com/products/product···2DWR740N

And we can't overlook this pesky problem now can we...

TP-LINK TL-WR740N Router HTML Injection and Denial of Service Vulnerabilities
»www.securityfocus.com/bid/46738/info

The particular router we are toying with here is far from a niche product and by the customer ratings I've seen on this product at virtually all the big retailers (the highest I've ever seen for a consumer router btw) we aren't the only ones happy with this device. I know 5 people now with this router and we're all extremely happy with it. The only "bugs" as you call them are minor from my perspective (and I'm damed picky about such things) and certainly nothing close to the bugs I've experienced with Netgear and Dlink recently.

The difference here Mix is our experiences as we are relating them are based on OUR real life hands on experience with the device. We're posting the problems we see openly for all to know again based on our hands on experience with the device for the purpose of helping people make their own best judgement call as to whether it's worth purchasing or not. Others are welcome to share their experiences with their devices as well.

You on the other hand are posting and arguing for the purposes of arguing and it's waste of space and our time. If you have a personal experience to share and discuss with a specific device you have owned, do own or had significant experience with then by all means feel free but otherwise don't post to just argue with people...it's a real solid way to get people to ignore you.
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Nothing personal but that's just not something I want to mess with.

Speaking of messing with things how much messing have you done so far with the media share features if any?
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FTBoomer

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Tampa, FL

@ispgeek Not really sure what you mean by media share? I have an Apple TV2 that I stream to but I gon't think that's what your talking about.

I have a VERY LARGE (20,000+ songs) music library on a dedicated 1TB drive that I share but it is plugged into my main hard wired PC. Don't see any reason to move that over to the router since my shares are all set up already.

As for the other issue, sorry to come off a bit weird about testing that issue for you. I'm extremely technical in some areas but not so much in others. Also, I have already run into issues of having to unplug and do a hard reboot of my router after a change didn't take properly. Everything came back up ok but it was still scary.



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Okay this is important. What changes were you making and what happened? Some changes take several seconds to take and reset your router and others are fairly quick....tell me what you are seeing, how etc so I can attempt to duplicate them here.
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FTBoomer

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Tampa, FL

If I remember correctly;

In one case, I was in the ADVANCED>WIRELESS>5GHz>GENERAL tab. I changed:

wireless mode to "n only"
channel bandwith to "40MHz"
channel to "165"

Can't recall the other issue right now



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And when you did this what happened as best you can describe it...

And you are still on .14 firmware right?



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said by BHNtechXpert:

And when you did this what happened as best you can describe it...

And you are still on .14 firmware right?

The system started to update and then froze. The first indication something was wrong was the rotating circle on the left of the blue update bar was missing and the missing icon placeholder was in its place.

I waited about 20 seconds and started clicking and hitting escape. I closed the browser window (Google Chrome Canary build 14) then reopened the ASUS interface. The ASUS control panel would not load. After several tries, I unplugged the router, waited 1 minute and plugged it back in. Went to the same area and my original setting in the above mentioned tab were back to the values before I attempted this change.


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Thanks I'll try to duplicate situation tonight/tomorrow and get back at ya.


bighorn1

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Zyxel USG100 here with bunch of N WAPs in repeater mode.

While it may appear expensive, it's very cheap for all the features you get.

If you have more sophisticated home network setup and you depend on high network availability (dual WAN), love high VPN throughput, USG series is the way to go.

Enterprise class features in a SOHO class price range.



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Zyxel generally speaking has a very good name and has been around a long time. I don't have a ton of experience with their routers but years ago I wouldn't accept anything but their modems (back in the day) because they were tops in their game for what I needed and yea I paid extra for those buggers but they worked every single time without fail.
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said by FTBoomer:

If I remember correctly;

In one case, I was in the ADVANCED>WIRELESS>5GHz>GENERAL tab. I changed:

wireless mode to "n only"
channel bandwith to "40MHz"
channel to "165"

Can't recall the other issue right now

Okay so I just attempted to duplicate your issue with .15 firmware and IE. No lockup. The interface as we have discussed previously needs some work. It's obvious they didn't have the best of programmers working on that part of the device but GUI is what it is and so long as the device works right I could care less about the GUI. I'll try tomorrow with .14 firmware and see how things go.
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Boomer would you like to try .15 of the firmware and see if it goes away? I still have my copy here if you want me to send you a link to it.



FTBoomer

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No but thanks, it's no big deal. Everything is working great. The way I see it, they pulled .15 for a reason so I'll just wait until the re-release it.

You mentioned the Media Server a few posts back. I commented back to you but didn't see a response. Are you using the media server in any particular way or is their an advantage I don't understand to using the router USB vs the way I'm currently doing things?



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The advantage of using the media server feature of the router is that you can attach small footprint and power consumption USB drives to your network available to all (and even people off your network if you want). As you have it setup now in order for others to have access to your network shares your main computer must be on.
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bigdaddy

join:2009-11-18
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Is this a Good Router ?

Buffalo Tech AirStation™ High Power N600 Gigabit Dual Band Wireless Router & AP - WZR-HP-AG300H

»www.buffalotech.com/products/wir···-related

Please let me know. I like the fact that it has dd-wrt inside with OpenVPN support.



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Re: [Internet] Best Routers for Bridged Networks

FT Boomer I've discovered an issue that warrants posting. Apparently this router has some issues with certain external hard drives. My two WD elements drives work fine but another external drive I have doesn't work with the media server...it essentially refuses to mount the drive. I know of another person having similar issues with the Seagate Go Flex series of external drives. One of his drives works but the other two either don't work at all or work for a bit and then stop being recognized by the router.

Some very strange stuff and while it'snot the purpose for owning this router it's important for everyone to know about these things in advance. I'll try to get some info from Asus in next day or so.
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FTBoomer

join:2011-04-22
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Odd, I don't own one of those and the WD I have is way to embedded to remove it from it's current connection.



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Yup it's an odd one. Hope to get some answers soon. Like I said I don't need or use the feature but I know others that do and figured what the heck I'll play too. We both discovered the weirdness about the same time.
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Re: Is this a Good Router ?

said by bigdaddy:

Buffalo Tech AirStation™ High Power N600 Gigabit Dual Band Wireless Router & AP - WZR-HP-AG300H

»www.buffalotech.com/products/wir···-related

Please let me know. I like the fact that it has dd-wrt inside with OpenVPN support.

Bigdaddy Buffalo is generally a good brand but I'll confess I know very little about this specific box. I tried to dig up some tech specs on it and Buffalo apparently feels that flashy websites are more important than real specs (only a couple listed). I'll try to do some more checkin tonight but if I don't get to it I'm not ignoring you...just not feelin so hot today...may hit the bed early for a change.
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No Problem, Thank You so much for what you do here in this Forum.



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Bigdaddy I did some research on that router. The initial reviews are mixed and if the review trend were to continue its present direction I would have to say that customers aren't thrilled with the device. Not to say its bad...it isn't just not what I want to see in that price range ($90+-). That said it is a true VPN endpoint which is good and yes it will run DDWRT however the chipset is not officially supported by DDWRT so some features are not available. This box is also single processor which means that it will be impacted faster at lessor session counts which means if you are a heavy torrent user or have lots of people on your local network it's likely to bog a bit.

That said IF I had my choice today, right now, this instant knowing everything I know I would still spend the extra $30.00 and get the Asus...yes even with the minimal quirks it appears to be a better box, by user reviews, my own personal experience and by specifications. Just my two cents (ok four cents).
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bigdaddy

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Thanks my decision on Routers will be based on which VPN service provider I will use for instance HMA use's OpenVPN and work's with routers with dd-WRT inside. Other vpn services is software based. What i have to deiced is what VPN Protocal i want use PPP PPTP L2TP or SSTP and OpenVPN. So if i use a software or dialer based VPN I'll Go with the Asus, if i go hardware I'll Try the Buffalo with openvpn.


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You don't need DD-WRT to use OpenVPN. You can install a OpenVPN client on your machines like any other VPN client. DD-WRT includes an OpenVPN server and client, the server is useful for running your own OpenVPN service but since you just need a client, DD-WRT is not essential.



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Good point!



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