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ispalten

join:2005-04-16
Clermont, FL
reply to RUQRU

Re: [Internet] Best Routers for Bridged Networks

5Ghz radio seems to be localized to our iPad's only, and after doing either streaming from the web or Media server. PC that is 5Ghz doesn't use the Media server and rarely streams stuff off the web.

Actually I'm surprised the iPad's (V2 and 3) have 5Ghz capability? They do see the radio and connect and appear to be stronger on that than the 2.4Ghz. I thought the iPad's were 2.4Ghz only? I didn't realize they could see a 5Ghz radio until we were traveling and saw a 5Ghz radio. Came home and we can connect to ours.

I've moved the iPad's back to 2.4Ghz and this takes care of the 'problem'.
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Irv,

I have two iPad 3's and 1 iPad 2 all running on the 5 GHz radio. I have been streaming YouTube all day with no issues using latest firmware. Strange how the same configuration results in different results .

Every few days a video will stop. It looks like the iPad dropped off the network. I go to settings and turn Wifi off then on and all is good. If this is the problem you are seeing then I just never paid much attention to it. Just accepted it as a glitch.

My wife works from home quite often and uses the 5 GHz radio to access a VPN. She has seen no problems. Actually before I installed the ASUS RT-N56U she complained about the crappy WiFi from the Ubee. Now she is happy

Did you see this problem on earlier builds also?

ispalten

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said by RUQRU:

Irv,

I have two iPad 3's and 1 iPad 2 all running on the 5 GHz radio. I have been streaming YouTube all day with no issues using latest firmware. Strange how the same configuration results in different results .
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Did you see this problem on earlier builds also?

No, this started on .025 and continued on .026, .018 worked fine. Worst situation is when I run on the iPad3 a Media Player to play video files off of the USB drive attached to the N56U. What usually 'breaks it' is when I try to move forward on a video. I use AIR AV or ACE PLAYER to view the video's. It doesn't move, just freezes. The iPad2 will also 'hang' as my wife plays some streaming apps. It isn't really a connection drop. Both can be reconnected the WiFi without problems and it works again, that is you can access the Internet and all, but I find I need to switch which app I used the access the media player as the one that hung doesn't work. Switching to the 2.4 channel, no problems and both apps work fine as does my wife's iPad. We're staying on the 2.4 channel now and I'll check every drop to see if it is fixed.
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said by ispalten:

said by RUQRU:

Irv,

I have two iPad 3's and 1 iPad 2 all running on the 5 GHz radio. I have been streaming YouTube all day with no issues using latest firmware. Strange how the same configuration results in different results .
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Did you see this problem on earlier builds also?

No, this started on .025 and continued on .026, .018 worked fine. Worst situation is when I run on the iPad3 a Media Player to play video files off of the USB drive attached to the N56U. What usually 'breaks it' is when I try to move forward on a video. I use AIR AV or ACE PLAYER to view the video's. It doesn't move, just freezes. The iPad2 will also 'hang' as my wife plays some streaming apps. It isn't really a connection drop. Both can be reconnected the WiFi without problems and it works again, that is you can access the Internet and all, but I find I need to switch which app I used the access the media player as the one that hung doesn't work. Switching to the 2.4 channel, no problems and both apps work fine as does my wife's iPad. We're staying on the 2.4 channel now and I'll check every drop to see if it is fixed.

Irv this really isn't the place for this...if you are having problems then you need to report them to Padavan like we do. Have you done that yet? I am not seeing anything as you described at all...not even one instance. You should also report it with the App maker since there is likely something there as well.
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ispalten

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Gary, I've been using the SMALL BUILDER NET, like this one, »forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showt···&page=15 to report problems. It seems someone from the Padavan team is watching this and answering. I'd report it on the normal website but I never see any resolution there. Only comments from others, such as the one I put here above.
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said by ispalten:

Gary, I've been using the SMALL BUILDER NET, like this one, »forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showt···&page=15 to report problems. It seems someone from the Padavan team is watching this and answering. I'd report it on the normal website but I never see any resolution there. Only comments from others, such as the one I put here above.

IRV!!! (face in Palms)....please...there appears to be two branches of Padavan folks...post your errors on the Padavan site directly in the format they ask you. Post your App issues on the App devs site. There is a reason why they have the issues area on the main site and who knows who the other guy is on smallnetbuilder.

One thing for sure I don't want to see it here until you have actually posted an issue notification there and then shared it with us. Reason is simple...posting such things here only does no good...I am not entering your issue fix request for you and honestly I cannot concur with your findings despite my best effort to break this firmware it just hasn't happened as you described for me or others and I have ever piece of equipment you do.

Going forward so as not to confuse anyone if you encounter a problem with the firmware or an App post the approriate support requests on each of involved parties and then share with us the link where you have done this so we can watch how it develops (if it does).

If in fact you find something that is duplicatable I will confirm it, and also file the appropriate support request or add mine to yours or vice versa but I am not going to chase red herring issues without the proper support backup. Thanks
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Quick question for you guys. Is there anyway to limit the bandwith on a particular IP addy with this router? I cannot for the life of me find a QOS option. I'm still on firmware .18. Should I upgrade to the latest .26?


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No there is no bandwidth limiting or QoS that is machine specific.

falcon2081

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Really? Well that sucks. I was hoping to do some tests with Call of Duty Black Ops 2 by limiting the bandwith on the xbox down to 250kbs/s. Guess I'll just load up a torrent and do it that way.


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Firmware 3.0.3.1-027 is out and I'm testing now. So far so good.


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I installed .027 and it seems OK. All wireless running fine with no drops.


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All is well with this version of code...very happy with it actually.


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I noticed better wireless stability with .027 vs. the previous few releases.


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I'm currently testing the v1 version of 027 (look in downloads top file). Just loaded it yesterday so no opinion yet.

kleerkoat

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so after checking some of this out. is it safe to say that these ubee modem/routers are poopy?

i still can't figure out what is wrong with my connection. my speeds and everything are fine from what i'm told from support. it's my connected devices (computer, ps3, xbox, etc) that are suffering.

i'm going to try and use my old router i was using when i had the modem and the basic package. i didn't have this much latency before, which doesn't make sense.

if the ubee's are poopy, then i might spring for this asus you guys are talking about.


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said by kleerkoat:

so after checking some of this out. is it safe to say that these ubee modem/routers are poopy?

i still can't figure out what is wrong with my connection. my speeds and everything are fine from what i'm told from support. it's my connected devices (computer, ps3, xbox, etc) that are suffering.

i'm going to try and use my old router i was using when i had the modem and the basic package. i didn't have this much latency before, which doesn't make sense.

if the ubee's are poopy, then i might spring for this asus you guys are talking about.

This isnt the thread for specific modem issues...open a new thread (direct prefered since I will need your IP address) and I'll take a look at whats going on. The bottom line is no the Ubees are just fine.
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sorry BHN, I actually have a thread in there that I was waiting for a reply on but I know your a busy man.


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Quick question...

I have a D-Link DIR-655 sitting here that I used with my previous ISP before moving to my current place. Is it worth bridging the DDW3611 so that I can use the DIR-655 or should I just stick with the DDW3611?
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If you are asking if it will give you better performance probably not...

ispalten

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Gary, the Padavan Official site's issue link shows 2 issues with a version not available, 033. Both reports, 657 and 658 are from different users and are 3 days old. Was a new drop released and removed fast or are they now available from a different source? Have you ever seen that 033 drop?

I ask as I've been having problems with 027 and have to re-boot the router often. Yes, I know, report it there, and I would if I could pin it down to the flash and if I ever saw a result posted on any issue.

What we've been seeing is 'slowdown' on inet access randomly on both the computers and the iPad's, but not at the same time. Either power off and on the device or re-booting the router solves the problem. For instance, I can be surfing the web with fast page loads yet Laraine is quite slow. Sometimes it is the other way around or we're both slow as. Same with the iPads. Re-booting router or the device clears it. 5Ghz signal doesn't see to go as far for the iPad's either on this drop. Can't quantify that either, just less, and can't imagine how the flash would effect that? I'd report these if I was sure it was flash.

For what it is worth, we both are on W8 now, and there are some issues we have to work through using W8 and drivers might need replacement. She's been on it for a month, me a few days. I'm still messing with my NIC driver, it has boot problems, but once enabled the connection seems fine. My comment above about slowness was when I was on W7 and Laraine W8, but now since we're both on W8 we're still seeing this so I doubt it was W8 alone.
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Irv I have no immediate plans to support Windows 8 issues. I do not have it and see no justification at this time to dedicate a machine to it given that most of the professional and consumer reviews are negative and obviously lack of uptake of the product. A significant number of folks who received products with Windows 8 are downgrading to Windows 7 which should tell you something.

As for .27 I am running the v version of .27 with no problems. I will check the Padavan site and yes it is possible they yanked a version as they have done it before. One thing I will tell you is turn Auto Channel Selection off. Dedicate to a single wifi channel and leave it there.
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ispalten

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said by BHNtechXpert:

As for .27 I am running the v version of .27 with no problems. I will check the Padavan site and yes it is possible they yanked a version as they have done it before. One thing I will tell you is turn Auto Channel Selection off. Dedicate to a single wifi channel and leave it there.

Always have it set to 11 with 7 as the side channel, found that combo to work the best. Run inSSIDer (»www.metageek.net/products/inssider/) occasionally to check for other signals around there but found none so far.

As for W8, first of all I've got images for W7 and can go back easily. No 'work' done on these computers so I don't mind going cutting edge, but as that say, users of the cutting edge usually bleed. Not running out of band-aids though now. Getting tired of chasing for drivers, especially on Dell's that are old.
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It does appear they pulled a version. Give it a couple of days and I'm sure it will be back as the problems appeared to be in the optware built into the device.


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OMG Gary I agree about the whole windows 8 thing . When my friends tell me they bought a new computer that has windows 8 i start to cringe. My advice to them is to ignore the silly metro tiles , and totally focus on the Desktop Environment, and do not run applications from the metro tiles area run applications in the desktop area. The first thing I do when i work on someones computer that is running windows 8 is install a program called "classic shell" to bring back the start menu. Shame on Microsoft for shoving this nasty Operating System down consumers throats. Stay with windows 7 for as long as possible my friends
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ispalten

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said by Guide_Tim:

OMG Gary I agree about the whole windows 8 thing . When my friends tell me they bought a new computer that has windows 8 i start to cringe. My advice to them is to ignore the silly metro tiles , and totally focus on the Desktop Environment, and do not run applications from the metro tiles area run applications in the desktop area. The first thing I do when i work on someones computer that is running windows 8 is install a program called "classic shell" to bring back the start menu. Shame on Microsoft for shoving this nasty Operating System down consumers throats. Stay with windows 7 for as long as possible my friends

Basically I agree with both of you about W8, I still find it useful. For one, the Start Screen does have some 'value'. The Weather, News, and Stock 'applets' I've enabled. I can leave that up and see what is going on (computer is on most of the day) if the screen saver isn't enabled. Also recently used apps I pin to it so I can start them whenever I want, from the desktop or Start Screen. I've learned how to basically use the mouse to circumvent the need for touch devices.

No, it isn't perfect, and somethings have been moved and some just don't seem to exist anymore.

Like it or not, it is the future. Vista and W7 were not well received when they were released either. Yeah, Vista was DOG, couldn't wait to get rid of it.

Anyway, going directly to the Desktop works well too. Tap the Windows key and you easily go back and forth. Have sufficient h/w and all works well, even if you use Live Tiles and don't use F4 to close them.
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ispalten

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Getting this discussion back on track, I see something that makes me think either there is another distribution point (possibly by someone else connected with Padavan) or there are more than one?

Check here, »forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showt···&page=21, entry made at 8:25AM this morning. New files?

Original D/L location of »code.google.com/p/rt-n56u/downloads/list doesn't show those?

However, the referenced forum entry above is for »code.google.com/p/rt-n56u/downlo···oadCount
and it has 4 files marked 'depeicated' which usually means it has been replaced with a new version.

Any ideas what is going on?
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Do NOT take code anywhere other than the main distro site. There is a reason why it was pulled...it will come back when its ready.


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Gary,

Are you looking at any of the new 802.11ac chipset routers from ASUS and others? At CES there are many new routers coming out this spring with the new standard.

As for Windows 8. I have been running it since release date on my custom DIY built i7 machine. It has 32 GB RAM and an Intel SSD and I have had zero problems. The KEY is: I use Stardock's Start8 software, which runs as a service, to bypass the tile interface and boots straight to the desktop. Windows 8 boots faster and has a clean interface in desktop mode. So if you want to upgrade do a clean install and use Start8 or ClassicShell to bypass the tiles and you will have an update that works great.


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said by RUQRU:

Gary,

Are you looking at any of the new 802.11ac chipset routers from ASUS and others? At CES there are many new routers coming out this spring with the new standard.

As for Windows 8. I have been running it since release date on my custom DIY built i7 machine. It has 32 GB RAM and an Intel SSD and I have had zero problems. The KEY is: I use Stardock's Start8 software, which runs as a service, to bypass the tile interface and boots straight to the desktop. Windows 8 boots faster and has a clean interface in desktop mode. So if you want to upgrade do a clean install and use Start8 or ClassicShell to bypass the tiles and you will have an update that works great.

Ruq,

When you pay that much for an operating system you shouldn't have to modify it's core mode of operation just to make it go with something from a 3rd party in my opinion AND I'm personally starting to get tired of Microsoft's imposed (shortening) of operating system lifecycles. I'm not alone with this...actually good company especially from an IT perspective. Win 8 has substantial maturing to do before I personally make the investment...as for professionally supporting it...perhaps later in the year...I feel no need to rush things.

As for the newer routers now that CES is over we will see which of these products actually makes it to the shelves of a store near you. Once that happens I'll take a good long look at several BUT they will need to sport much more than a wireless standard improvement before I start recommending people make yet another investment. Reason is simple... I am not a huge fan of wireless to begin with for obvious reasons....the biggest...it's way way way overused and abused and when it fails to meet expectations folks completely ignore the fact that wireless by nature isn't ultra reliable but that doesn't stop them from going off on their provider or others for that matter. There are ways to build a decent home wireless network and ways not to...most opt for the cheaper way out which does nothing but cause everybody that serves them headaches including me.
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ispalten

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said by BHNtechXpert See Profile

When you pay that much for an operating system you shouldn't have to modify it's core mode of operation just to make it go with something from a 3rd party in my opinion AND I'm personally starting to get tired of Microsoft's imposed (shortening) of operating system lifecycles. I'm not alone with this...actually good company especially from an IT perspective. Win 8 has substantial maturing to do before I personally make the investment...as for professionally supporting it...perhaps later in the year...I feel no need to rush things.


I've NOT modified it, and I don't see the need to do so. One mouse click and I'm on the Desktop. I've 'learned' to get around the START ORB being missing. Doing the Right Mouse Button on the lower left of the screen gets me most of what I used the Start Orb for, and the movement of the mouse to the lower right of the screen and then Search basically shows me the same as All Programs.

I actually LIKE the Start Screen, I've deleted the 'junk', and enabled the Live Tiles for the ones I want, weather, news, etc., and also added ones for my frequently used programs.

Yes, I'm a home user, and both my wife and I are on W8, makes 'support' much easier.

It was cheaper to buy it now, $15 and $40, then to do it later (I could have just purchased it and waited I guess).

IT with many machines and programs to support, true, but a home user isn't in this situation.

Buy a new computer and you'll be seeing W8 as the OS more than likely. No need to rush, but others are having it happen each day. This will be a headache for both developers and IT people that support home users. Luckily for you, BHN seems to be OK on W8 as it is transparent.

Gain from W8, after getting the 'bumps' and learning curve under control, not much I can see. Matter of fact when on the Desktop I can't tell I'm not on W7 other than the missing Start Orb and 'different' ways I have to do things. Programs (that work under W8) don't seem to care.

Just my $0.02 USD on the subject. No need to respond.

EDIT: fixed Quote...
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