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Asus just released 3.0.0.4.370 for N66U/R yesterday, stable Im guessing since its not listed as beta. Has any one give it a test drive yet? Still a little concerned about the 5GHz driver as there was no mention of it in the release notes.

There is alternative firmware for the 66 that would probably address all of your needs.

Does anyone notice any of the Asus routers getting hot? Is this normal? OR is it only certain models? I have read posts on the feedback on amazon some said it gets hot.

TIA

In the first version of the N66U the had a fan on the inside , but all it did was circulate hot air. I'm surprised no one else has commented.
I know a few other guys on here have the asus ones. So Im wondering now if its certain ones that get hot.

Guys one thing I should point out...it's only an issue if the device fails because of heat. If it's just running hot they have taken this into consideration in the design so probably not to worry. If on the other hand the devices are failing because of heat thats an issue...if its just people complaining about it being hot...they haven't felt the side of a hitachi hard drive lately....now thats hot.
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Right the Second version which I have has the big heat sink , but the air flow around that heat sink is not good. Also while device can run hot it can shorten its life. The Asus would probably run fine without any additional cooling , I just like to make sure it keeps running for years to come.

See electromigration. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration

I was in the QA department at Square D for about 6 years and we did thermal burn in on electronic components . So I have first hand experience with heat on electronics and how it affects them. (just
so you know Im not blowing smoke.)

I would be worried about that Hitachi drive if its running that hot
I have had several hard drives fail because of heat. Not only do you get electromigration in the electronics , there is also the concern of the magnetic domains on the platters getting scrambled because of heat. I have a 13 year old IBM PC with the original HD in it. Its been on 24/7 for 7 years now. But it also runs cool.

edit: pic of original n66u: »assets.vr-zone.net/13760/internals.jpg

Heat is only a factor IF it wasn't designed to handle it...what you refer to is general but many devices run perfectly fine for their life in extreme conditions because they were designed that way.

Im not going get in a debate about it , we just have to agree to disagree
But I will say just this , what retail products are designed for extreme heat?

Id be interested in seeing what model Hitachi so I can look up data sheet

edit : this from hitachis own web site
"Operating electronic components such as disk drives at high temperatures can dramatically reduce their reliability."

»www1.hgst.com/hdd/technolo/drive···temp.htm

Dont get me wrong, the router will probably run fine , but I have found that devices seem to last longer when cooled. I do that because Im too cheap to go and buy something new. I had my old dlink for 5 years. Only went to the asus so it could handle the turbo speed

edit: BTW mount vertically , that definitely helps with cooling

But your idea of hot and the manufacturers idea of hot are two different things. What matters is the onboard temp and you can't measure that unless you get it on a bench and probe it. The heat sinks on there are doing exactly as designed which is dissipating the heat hence you feel it....life is good.

lol evidently so, But Im still interested in what hitachi model can take the high temp ,Ive searched and come up empty. so if you know the model number , I have an application for one. TIA

I tend to be a bit overly cautious because of my past experience with heat related problems. I have more than one device fail due to heat (it displayed all the classic symptoms of heat failure so im pretty sure about those) So I error on the side of caution just to be on the safe side. When I was in QA back then heat was a real concern. Ill take your word that electronics have improved in that area. Its just that I haven't seen anything yet, running that hot that didn't fail.

Look you have 3 year warranty or maybe it's two years....you have nothing to fear

If its gonna fail due to heat it will happen long before that....

No worries , I have the 2 year warranty , but I have it cooled down to 48c . Unless the numbers have changed I remember that , statistically speaking , If some thing is going to fail, it will in the first year , if it makes it past that , you are pretty much good for 7 more years.

Actually if you make it past the first 60 days you will be fine in MOST cases...

I think 48c (it was at 60c before) is actually pretty good internal temp. Beside, cracking the case voids the warranty