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[Unstable] Diving back in with some help request

You are using a mix of Kingston and Corsair and they each have a unique tolerance level. This makes fine tuning or overclocking difficult. If the system isn't crash then I would just leave things the way they are. You are not going to see any different going from 1066MHz to 1333MHz or CL8 to CL9.

Would it be almost impossible to get them to 1600MHz?

reply to DC Denton
You are mixing RAM, and for all I might know, the sticks could be made from different memory chips, too. That is never a good idea for stability. Sure, sometimes it works ok, but it is a problem looking to happen.

Second, you are using the processor I just stopped using because of how bad it sucks. Mine would only clock to 5%, the 710 is a sucky processor. I am using a 955 black now and love it, clocked to almost 4 GHz from 3.2, and if I was willing to put in some effort, I could surely get it even faster, but my skills aren't where they need to be, so any additional 5-20% isn't too important to me anyways.

Furthermore, you make no mention of CPU cooling. Are you using the crappy stock heatsink/fan? I wouldn't be overclocking that processor with a stock cooler, no way.

That is a lot of RAM, do you even need that much, what are you doing to need so much memory? I do basic stuff, a little gaming (not too much), folding@home, BOINC, web, movies, and a few other things and the 2x2 GB of RAM is enough. Unless you are running photoshop with large content or something, mixing RAM just to get a few more gig is meaningless.

But, FWIW, I think you are very lucky to get the clock you ARE getting. Hope you don't fry that processor from over running it, over heating it.
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Yes crappy stock cooler, which has serviced me well, but lately it has been a little toasty. I have been looking to step it up.

I am not overly concerned about the processor clocking any higher than stock. It has treated me well. I might be looking into a new processor eventually but right now its getting the job done.

4gigs was not enough to run 2 VMs at once. Now things are a hell of a lot more smooth. I tend to Have one VM dedicated to creating universal images for XP and W7, another one on and off to play around with linux and another one I left dedicated to server 08 R2 to pretend like I am learning something

Sorry if I am out of my league here. I can pull out the 2x2gb Corsair since I believe the Kingston is better quality and 8gb is more than enough also. Would that simplify and make it easier?
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Sure. While you might not be having problems, for stability's sake, when overclocking, you might want just one kind of RAM. Also, it tends to be better to have just one set of slots populated, although that tends to be less of an issue as it used to be...

What temperatures is your CPU running at, and what core temps?

If you are in the 60s you could be asking for trouble.

I am not suggesting you quit using the 710, but you seemed to have complaints about stability and clock speed, and I wanted to point out:

The 710 is a tri core that is really a "rejected" quad core, meaning that AMD "binned" the chip in post process testing and modified it to run with the three better of the four cores. Also, it is a non black processor, meaning a second strike against it as far as what likelihood there is of good overclocks with stability.

Stability generally goes with running at stock speeds, and also the king of stability still goes to an Intel system with Intel processor AND Intel branded motherboard.

But I have to ask, ARE you really having stability issues? Or you unhappy with your clock? It's sounded like both were issues for you, hence my responses...
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That explains why I got such a good deal on the processor

Idle sits around 41c, Trying to stress it, IE Running Rift + VM Server 2k8 going, with BT and serving up Minecraft. It hits around 55-58C

Stability none that I can see, but I wanted to try to make the memory hit the mark at which i bought it. That would be impossible with a mixed bag?
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Okay what is the problem here? you want your ram to run at 800mhz? (1600)

Likely not gona happen... you have one set that can do 685mhz and another that can do 800...

You are talking a huge OC on the ram + running 4 sticks so this is more of a load on the memory controller....

You should have no issues running 685 (be it maybe with a little more than 1.5 volts) at 9 9 9 26 35 but 800mhz... you can try... this is overclocking nothing has a set in stone limit...(just like that tri core is a good OCer overall) I'd run some memtest maybe p95 blend / intel burn test (max ram) to check the OC of the ram... but give 685 a shot... maybe even 700... with 1.5 if not I'd bump it to 1.53/5...

Just keep in mind you will be going faster... but with loser timings so... slow access but more bandwidth... but faster access due to the clock speed increase... (aka you are speeding it up and slowing it down)

Both sets were rated for 800/1600. Its just the kingston is 1.5v and Corsair was 1.75. I'm guessing from what I used to know, jacking it up to 1.75 will hurt the kingston memory. I think tonight im gonna pull the older memory and see if I can do everything I want to with 8gb only.
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Voltage is one difference. There are many Latency and other timings that vary from stick to stick, too. Trying to clock RAM faster isn't going to give you noticeable performance differences in the way that CPU clocking does. But if you are benchmarking, well...
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reply to DC Denton
Okay what you posted shows different...

.25 is alot to overvolt ram by... if you REALLY want you can try to find out the chip maker... you could have good chips that can take the voltage... cause even at 1.75 you might need 1.8 to make all 4 sticks work.