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elray

join:2000-12-16
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reply to fuziwuzi

Re: American GFW?

said by fuziwuzi:

Every day the US gets closer and closer to emulating China. A conservative, single-party government, unrestricted capitalism, dismantling government regulations on safety and environment, censoring internet, citizens being "detained for questioning" simply for protesting...

My partner in Shanghai is forced to use a VPN for his internet use, and I guess I will have to join him, now.

Our government is anything but Conservative - and that includes the prior administration.

If regulations are being dismantled, that would be big news.

As for being detained, well, that has always happened in small numbers - habeas corpus didn't mean much before 9/11, and it never will. But to suggest that detention occurs to suppress speech is nonsensical, as it achieves the opposite.


fuziwuzi
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Atlanta, GA

I was referring to what the conservatives here WANT to happen, what they are constantly whining about in front of TV cameras. Look at the call for abolishing OSHA, EPA, FCC, FDA, effectively eliminating the 4th Amendment, calls for censoring the internet...


elray

join:2000-12-16
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said by fuziwuzi:

I was referring to what the conservatives here WANT to happen, what they are constantly whining about in front of TV cameras. Look at the call for abolishing OSHA, EPA, FCC, FDA, effectively eliminating the 4th Amendment, calls for censoring the internet...

The most recent incursions on the 4th amendment had the support of most of left.

I'm not aware of conservative calls to censor the internet. If you mean an ongoing desire to thwart porn, that's called Parenting and Feminism; given that the *majority* of families-with-children are headed by unmarried women - one would be hard pressed to declare such efforts a conservative domain.

Its true that Conservatives seek to abolish most federal agencies - how else will we ever operate without a deficit? How do we support job growth if we have an all-powerful federal government that opposes business at every turn?

The alphabet agencies you cite have far too much power to implement policy without state or Congressional approval - they're assuming authority that was never delegated to the federal government. While there is probably a middle ground where much smaller versions of those agencies, with more checks and balances, might still make sense, the best course is to eliminate them and start over.


Steve001968

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reply to fuziwuzi

said by fuziwuzi:

I was referring to what the conservatives here WANT to happen, what they are constantly whining about in front of TV cameras. Look at the call for abolishing OSHA, EPA, FCC, FDA, effectively eliminating the 4th Amendment, calls for censoring the internet...

Grow up. The current administration and every other Democrat administration in recent history wants and does everything it can to implement a cradle to grave nanny state, from forced 'contributions' to social security giving government control of retirement to forced 'contributions' to Medicare and Medicaid giving the government control of an ever increasing number of people's healthcare. The average American pays over 1/3 of their income in taxes most of which goes to support one form of government social meddling or another. The Obama administration fully supports the RIAA efforts on the subject under discussion here. That said there is no inherent right to pirate content but that doesn't mean that anti-pirating schemes are technologically feasible either. Piracy like almost everything is else is driven by economics. Technology is also driven by economics and there are probably more consumer dollars overall to be spent on defeating anti piracy measures than on enforcing them.


fuziwuzi
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reply to elray

I call BS. Sorry, your defense is baseless.