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 signmeuptooLove those still alivePremium
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| [OC] Need some up to date information, direction Up until now I've been ok with my very limited skills in overclocking. I've only had to overclock an AMD socket 939 Toledo 4800 which I had running at 3 GHz and lately an AMD socket AM3 Deneb Quad 955 from 3.2 GHz up to 3.95 GHz.
I understand cooling pretty well, and understand enough to raise or lower a multiplier and/or the "FSB" and understand to some degree RAM ratios for DDR1. That is about it.
I often tell new members here at DSLR about google, and there have been times people have had to point out a particular google search to me even, but my questions here today are above and beyond my modest skills for google-ing...
I have done some searches for answers on AMD advanced clock calibration and I am dissatisfied with what little I've found. I know what I could get a better overclock from my 955 if I could figure out how to tweak the RAM latency and other related RAM settings, figure out ACC and related settings, and other new since the socket 939 days settings.
Googling has been frustrating.
Furthermore, I hope to get an Intel system built by this fall, Sandy Bridge or Sandy Bridge E, whatever I can afford...
I read in this forum references to some things I know nothing about when it comes to Intel of late.
Now, my roommate's friend wants me to help him figure out what to do to overclock his system. I haven't met the guy yet and don't know if he's got Intel or AMD, but I am thinking he has Intel. All I know is that he built his system and that my roommate told him that I have SOME skills.
Our FA@s here are horribly out of date and I don't see linkys to good, current technology, tutorials and FAQs of other sites for the new Intel (and AMD) overclocking procedures. There are so many new BIOS settings, and now there is even UEFI!!! I haven't touch such systems, never even seen them yet.
I want to plead for some help and guidance here, in the past my posts have been ignored and I don't know why, but it does hurt a little getting ignored when I my own self have gone out of my way to help others here at DSLR.
I just need some guidance, not so much handholding as some good direction as to what sites will give me easy to understand yet holistic information on overclocking these new chipsets for both AMD and Intel. I am frustrated with what I've found via google on ACC for instance.
I am willing to read, search, and take action, but I need direction so that I can help this guy, and myself, to overclock both brands of processors.
Could you start by recommending tutorials, forums, and links that will give me no nonsense yet informative and understandable guidance? Sometimes people post BS that they pull out of their ass and I don't want to be misled by such forums and sites...
Could some of you help me this way and be available to help clear up any questions and confusion I might have after reading what you refer to me?
Thank you so very much.
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 jsimmonsPremium,MVM
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Re: [OC] Need some up to date information, direction Assuming you might go relatively current Intel, here's some useful links:
»forum.benchmarkreviews.com//show···?t=16555
»benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?o···temid=38
I recently built a SandyBridge i7-2600K based system without spending an arm and a leg, and overclocked it from 3.4
GHz to 4.7 Ghz without doing anything special. Just a good P67 based motherboard and upgraded CPU cooler. These processors run so cool, water is unnecessary.
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| Thanks so very much, j. Will read it and study it.
I figure my current Coolermaster Hyper 212+ will be more than adequate for such a build with a SB. I may end up with a second one, I see the price on them went up since I bought it.
Ideally, I'd like something like the Hyper 212+ but with more room for the RAM sticks via an offset.
Also, is thee minimum number of MOSFET phases about 8+1, and are there quantifiable advantages to more phases? I did a little reading on the subject, but I have more to learn... I also understand that MSI uses a different approach for the power circuitry for the CPU and RAM. I am curious as to whether MSI's circuitry approach is better...
Let me read that and whatever else some of you might post to complement it and come back here with smarter questions...
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The CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ is a good choice. It's what I used and CPU temps are not a problem. I have »www.coolermaster-usa.com/product···_id=2971 case too with great ventilation and under highest stress intelburn test, CPU cores don't even hit 70c. Throttling doesn't occur til upwards of 90c.
I went with a mid-range P67 motherboard (GA-P67A-UD4-B3). Power circuitry is fine - just remember, the SandyBridge CPU's are not power hungry, nor are the DDR3 Ram sticks, so unless you are planning to put in multiple high-end graphics cards, it's probably not something to be too concerned about. I have a mid-range nvidia card, 4 x 4 Gig DDR3 ram sticks, and a 750 Watt PSU. Even after hours of running, all the internals are cool to the touch. With Sandy Bridge builds power and cooling are nowhere near the issue they were with previous technologies.
Personally, I opted to go middle-of-the-road on Mobo, RAM, and GPU opting to spend more for the i7-2600K very tweakable CPU and an OCZ Vertex3 (SATA III) SSD. In the end, a very fast SSD is going to do more for improving the overall performance of the system than almost anything else. But pushing 5 Ghz on the CPU certainly doesn't hurt. 
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signmeuptooLove those still alivePremium
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Re: [OC] Need some up to date information, direction Any reason you went with the 2600k over the 2500k? Can't they both hit 5? Is the only difference binning or something more? | |
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2 edits | It's more. The 2600K includes hyperthreading, so even though the processor has 4 cores, each one can dual-thread. So the OS sees it as an 8-way processor. Also, the 2600K has more cache memory.
Whether the 2600K or 2500K can hit 5 GHz depends a lot on the chip and other factors (voltage, cooling, etc.). 4.5-4.7 GHz seems to be the "no brainer" sweet-spot overclock and anything beyond that will require some luck, extra $$ in mobo, cooling, and time to tweak. To tell you the truth, I hit 4.7 stable without much additional voltage and just said thats it. I was able to go higher, but the system wasn't 100% stable and I just didn't feel like spending a lot of hours tinkering with it to go higher. 4.7 GHz is blazing fast and I then tweaked other things (overclock on the video card, system config for SSD, etc.).
Now I just use my PC and enjoy it. I don't tinker with it much.
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| One thing I don't yet understand is the BIOS nomenclature for voltage settings. And what to do with them, what is necessary to change, say, besides the CPU voltage, and it seems that CPU voltage can have more than one setting, that is something I don't understand yet...
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| said by signmeuptoo:One thing I don't yet understand is the BIOS nomenclature for voltage settings. And what to do with them, what is necessary to change, say, besides the CPU voltage, and it seems that CPU voltage can have more than one setting, that is something I don't understand yet...
When you get ready to dive into SB let me know. They are very easy to OC with a decent mobo although the new bios can be confusing. From my experience 4.5 GHz. is pretty easy although the voltage necessary to get there can vary quite a bit. Your CM 212+ will cool it with no problems. Ram clearance is usually not an issue even with an mATX mobo. Whether you're a hard core gamer or not will play the biggest role in mobo selection. The newer Z68 chipset with built in graphics work well and hold down the expense of buying a graphics card if you don't need one.
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jsimmonsPremium,MVM
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Yeah... the Z68 based boards were not out yet when I built my new system in April. In fact, the P67's had just started shipping again after the SATA snafu with the earlier versions of the P67 / H67 chipset.
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signmeuptooLove those still alivePremium
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jsimmonsPremium,MVM
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said by signmeuptoo:One thing I don't yet understand is the BIOS nomenclature for voltage settings. And what to do with them, what is necessary to change, say, besides the CPU voltage, and it seems that CPU voltage can have more than one setting, that is something I don't understand yet...
The voltage "knobs" that are exposed depends a lot on the motherboard you select. And the same settings are sometimes labeled differently from board to board. That just adds to confusion. There are really only a couple settings that have useful effects and they are mostly covered in the various overclocking guides. The links I provided above I believe cover them some. A lot of good discussion over on the Anandtech forums on voltage related topics too.
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