| Router Recommendation for Fios 35/35 I currently have a Cisco 2621 which I don't think will cut it on a 35/35 Fios connection. Been looking to upgrade, Had my eye on a 2821 for a while, but not set on it. This is for a Home/Telecommuting setup. I would have several tunnels, Nat, ipv6 on it.
Don't want to say money is no object, but I can spend in the $500-$1000 range if needed.
I want to prepare for a possible jump to a 150/50 service down the road if needed. |
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kudos:5 | The 2801 is a T1 router. Expecting more than a couple meg out of it with services is unrealistic.
If you are seriously considering the higher end services, i would suggest looking at a router specifically designed for next gen broadband like the 891/891w devices. They range from $800-$1200 retail (although if you have a good discount at work you could almost certainly acquire them for $650-$950.
I suspect there are quite a few opinions surrounding the platforms and subjects, but a newer smaller box is preferable to a 6 year old larger box. With new tech like ipv6 creeping its way to the edge of the network, I would say focus on platforms activly developed. |
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| reply to Pher9999
Have you considered an ASA? |
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| Not ruling out anything yet. |
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| reply to Pher9999
The ASA5505 is capable of 150Mbit IIRC. So it would be more than adequate. |
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| I concur, for the services you listed, an Asa or pix would serve you better. Fwiw, you can pick up a pix 515e unrestricted on eBay pretty cheap ($100-$200). I have a 5505 unlimited /sec plus, and I recently switched back to a pix 515e because the performance is better. If you decide to get a pix, get one with a vac+ and 128mb ram so that you can run 8.0(4) code on it. |
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| reply to Pher9999
Should I be concerned that the 5505 has a 10/100. I would think I want to move towards a 10/100/1000 interfaces for future proofing, if $$$ allows. |
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| 10/100 should be ok, but for pix 515 and higher, you can buy gigabit adapters (mm fiber only). The fixed adapters are 10/100. On a 515, you can only do 1, unless you remove the vac. If you need more than 1, go with a 525. With that said, I don't see wan connections in the US going above 100mbs anytime in the near future for residential. If you have a lot of internal traffic firewalled, you could do a 1gbs link with a dot1q trunk inside and use the 10/100 fixed interface outside.
HTH |
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What kind of IPv6 functionality are you after? Just IPv6 addressing, or IPv6 tunnels?
If the latter, you're DEFINATELY in for an ISR as PIX / ASA does not do IPv6 tunnels.
If gigabit LAN is a must, you're basically looking at an 891 as mentioned, or the newer x9xx
series routers, which will likely be well north of the $1000USD mark.
Also are you looking for only copper / RJ45 connectivity?
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| Will be Tunneled ipv6 initially not sure what verizon is doing for ipv6 roll out exactly.
Gigabit isn't a must, but rather spend the $$$ a bit upfront for longer investment then having to buy a new one in the not too distant future. I was looking at the 1941 for the 2 GBE, short of going to the 29xx which is a jump.
Yes Copper for now, not opposed to fiber, but then would need to upgrade the switches and such. |
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If gigabit LAN isn't a Must, could just get a good gigabit switch and use a 100Mbps trunk.
As ua_hockey noted, the most common broadband connections aren't likely to hit over
100Mbps anytime soon.
May also want to look at the 1941 and 1921 side by side as well. Don't know what drove
Cisco to create the 1921, but can't find much fault with it feature-wise.
Regards |
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| I already have gigabit switches installed. one for private and one for public side.
Fios here can offer up to 150/35 service. Just not worth the monthly fee, as of yet. who knows that could change. Just want to avoid double paying for routers in a shorter amount of time then just invest in one good one now. |
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| As previously stated, an Asa or pix will not do an ipv6 tunnel, however, they will do ipv6 quite nicely (routing, acls, etc...). You could repurpose your 2600 for the tunnel. I do a tunnel with HE on a 1751 sitting outside my pix. Works well. |
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kudos:5 | For our IPv6 rollout we arent considering any of the first generation ASAs due to significant IPv6 bugs (crashes) and generally poor performance.
These are mostly (supposedly) fixed with the spyker boxes and new code. We have hundreds of firewalls to upgrade in the long painful road to dual stack.
My ipv6 driving pain is caused by a massive multimillion$ customer demands we take ipv6 from them starting this fall, and while tunneling and proxying are a temporary short term solution, dual stacking is ultimately where we want to be. |
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@ua_hockey
Only thing to watch out for is whether the OPs 2600 is an XM or non XM. I've never figured it out
to this day but Cisco in its infinite wisdom decided that nearly all the 17xx series and 2691 series could
take 12.4T code, but the lower end 2600s would simply be dropped from anything higher than 12.3
unless you got the magical XM model. Try and figure that one out...
@nosx
Guessing the 'Spyker' terminology refers to the 5585 series? How are they? I've briefly scanned the
datasheets, but never quite figured out what made them so much 'better' than a 5580.
Regards |
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kudos:5 | @HF
Ill let u know tomorrow, we have our first 5585-20 installed in a datacenter here (very very sexy hardware) and are going to make sure we converted the config right before trying to shift traffic onto it tomorrow.
Best feature by far IMO is LACP support (finally). Still have some outstanding issues to address though. |
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@nosx
Let us know how it goes. I'm especially interested in a 'show tech' and whether they continue the
PIX / ASA tradition of PC hardware running PIX / ASA code or not.
Regards |
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It's an orginal 2621, no XM, But I did max the ram and flash in them. |
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How much DRAM and flash do you have on it right now Pher9999? IIRC, I thought the
non-XMs topped out at 16F/64D, but I could be wrong.
Your best bet is to check feature navigator to see what IPv6 functionality you can
expect, and decide from there whether you want to look into an entirely new device
or not. Raw speed-wise, at 35/35, I'd say the 2600 is pretty nearly automatically
disqualified.
Regards |
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| Yeah the 2600 limits can be felt on 12/2 cable now, I use it mainly for a tunnel to the main office from home. and push general net traffic through an apple airport extreme.
I'm looking at doing a 1941 in a month or so, til then I'll live with a segmented network.
16F/64D is the limits for the 2600 non-xm. |
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