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qwertyu

@wildblue.net

Viasat 1 doesn't cover everyone

I missed it if it was mentioned before. I've been following/waiting for this "wonderful" new satellite to show up, and it's not even going to cover my area. They say they will upgrade their ground equipment for other areas. Nice.

»www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011···-gamble/


zalternate

join:2007-02-22
freedom land

This spot beam map is an estimate of the areas covered. So by the looks of it, is some areas will have a double or triple spotbeam coverage from the ViaSat1. While most of the center of North America(north to south) will have to rely on the old birds up there. Good for high use areas and crap for the less populated areas.

»www.satbeams.com/satellites?id=2462
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Prisoners are treated better than supposedly free North Americans.



qwertyu

@wildblue.net

reply to qwertyu
Does anyone know what will be done to the current setup, will the plans be comparable, support VOIP, etc.? I know the answer to this question will be nobody knows, I'm a bit disappointed and ticked off right now....


Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10

reply to qwertyu
If Viasat upgrades the ground equipment for beam 31 after Wildblue downgraded it in November 2009, then my advertised speeds might be restored.

Viasat has claimed that the prices of the service packages on Viasat-1 will be comparable with the prices of the current packages. The maximum upload and downloads speeds will be greater. I still have not heard about the FAP for Viasat-1.
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Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway



DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

reply to qwertyu

said by qwertyu :

Does anyone know what will be done to the current setup...

ViaSat has indicated they understand current users, especially Anik F2 users, are not with a good internet experience.

Crystal Ball Says - On new bird, everything will be wonderful...on Anik F2 bird, whatever contract says, will be the outcome...on WB-1, bandwidth may improve with time on overloaded beams, as old users move on.

Hence, that contractual relationship with the Canadians may bind their hands...I can't jump to WB-1, unless I was a new customer.

Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ

said by DrStrangeLov :

...on Anik F2 bird, whatever contract says, will be the outcome...on WB-1, bandwidth may improve with time on overloaded beams, as old users move on...

Might want to research some crow recipes, you might be needing to eat some soon...

JSheridan

join:2006-07-03
USA

said by Liberty:

said by DrStrangeLov :

...on Anik F2 bird, whatever contract says, will be the outcome...on WB-1, bandwidth may improve with time on overloaded beams, as old users move on...

Might want to research some crow recipes, you might be needing to eat some soon...

I'm sure old JAB is used to the taste.


DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

reply to Liberty

said by Liberty:

research some crow recipes...

I have not seen your 2 cents worth...talk is cheap!

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10

I still think the slow service on beams that are not overloaded is due to management decisions concerning the ground equipment in the gateways. If so, it is possible to fix it.



zalternate

join:2007-02-22
freedom land

said by Spice300:

I still think the slow service on beams that are not overloaded is due to management decisions concerning the ground equipment in the gateways. If so, it is possible to fix it.

That can be true. If the noc/gateway does not have the hardware for the bandwidth or throughput capacity as all the beams that it services, there will be slowdowns. And some companies tend to wait until a "node" is at capacity before spending a few bucks to add more hardware and connections to the fiber(hopefully) out the door.
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Prisoners are treated better than supposedly free North Americans.


DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

reply to Liberty

said by Liberty:

Might want to research some crow recipes, you might be needing to eat some soon...

French believes ViaSat is serious about changing the perception of satellite Internet as being slow, expensive and restrictive in terms of bandwidth.

“Once ViaSat took over WildBlue, they stopped accepting new subscribers — even though there was churn — in the beams on the current system, which were the most crowded to bring up that quality of service,” he said.
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ViaSat is betting that it can attract new customers by offering more bandwidth and speed without boosting prices. For about the same price as WildBlue’s current satellite subscription plans, ViaSat 1 aims to deliver download speeds ranging from 2 megabits per second for a basic plan to 10 megabits per second for top-tier service.

»www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011···-gamble/

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10

I'll believe it when I see it, DrStrangeLuv. Viasat-1 does not have any spot beams for the low demand areas in the western states. Are they really going to add more servers to the gateways (after reducing them 2 years ago under the old management) and sell us the Select pack for $39.95 / month on Anik-F2 and Wildblue-1? When pigs fly to the satellites to do maintenance and repair....
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Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway



qwertyu

@wildblue.net

The "feeling" on the other forum is that VS-1 will have to be up for some time for enough customers to move off. Then there is a possibility of increased numbers. My impression is this will be a significant time after VS-1 is in service. Also whatever they do to optimize the ground equipment, is almost guaranteed to be a fraction of whatever they do with the new bird, concerning download speeds anyway. The latency has room for improvement, I saw what it was when WB was young, and it was a better browsing overall. Don't dare to say how disappointed I am in WB at this time. And I'm not really excited about the launch any more. I just wish I would have known a couple years ago they were leaving us out, I wouldn't have been telling my neighbors about it, that's for sure. Maybe some day it will be something, but you can't tell me they couldn't have tried to service us as they did with the old bird. That decision tells me what kind of company this is. More money for not much gain, I know. But when spending over a billion, what's a fraction more to service most of the people that will have no land options for years, if ever.

All I know is if I would have any land based option of 756Kbps, I would not look at satellite, even if offered at 3 meg for a base package. I'd pay more for it as well. Speaking from years of having WB, and having it work all but a few months of the time, reasonably well.



DrStrangeLov

@12.189.32.x

reply to qwertyu

said by qwertyu :

VOIP....I know the answer to this question will be nobody knows

Before the
Federal Communications Commission
Washington, D.C. 20554

April 21, 2011

REPLY COMMENTS OF VIASAT, INC.
...
...
As ViaSat demonstrated at the Commission during the
April 27 workshop on USF reform, Voice over Internet Protocol (“VoIP”) calls can be transmitted via satellite with the same level of quality and reliability as voice calls transmitted via terrestrial wireless networks.

»prodnet.www.neca.org/publication···asat.pdf


qwertyu

@wildblue.net

That document discusses Viasat-1. And mentions "broadband". What is not known is whether the same capabilities will be available on the existing satellite. Since it's speeds will most likely not be comparable to VS-1, likely or quite possibly not meeting the definition of the word "broadband", and since any upgrades to it will likely not happen for some time until enough customers move off of it, if then, I was just curious if the same features would be supported.

Turns out after years, a regional cell carrier operating at a very unreliable, poor, unresponsive 1xRtt internet speed, problems with dropped calls and texts not going through for days, that I had given up on, is now testing 4g as of yesterday, supposedly flipping the switch after 30 days of testing in a few towns. This is on the other end of their network, so of course the end I'm on will be last, and it's been years of promised 3g (it's coming soon/in a couple months, was being stated by their techs and salespeople over 3 years ago), so probably still years out. They have home internet terminals (like ericsson w35), $30 per month plus tax currently for unlimited (but it is not usable now, worse than WB, page timeouts, youtube doesn't work most of the time, etc.). I would still need an external antenna, and booster possibly, but crossing my fingers!!!


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