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Re: All of it is TOTAL FRAUD! said by TZi: How can you say that? Are you accusing our government of killing ~3000 people in NYC and Washington D.C. to start a war over oil? This war is about some 3000 people dying plain and simple.
So, you just think arabs in the middle east would just up and hate us and want to "kill the infidels" for no reason? Surely you're not as ignorant as you sound just now.
Our foreign policy is why two planes smashed into the WTC. Not just because some jihad, or crazed muslims were bent on our destruction. There are reasons for everything. Not to justify their actions by any means, but think for a moment why they hate us. And then think about them simply "being evil" or attacking us for no reason. It makes no sense.
If you knew much about our foreign policy and how many people we've killed, overthrown in coups, played as pawns and ultimately left neglected once we got what we wanted (be it a puppet government, paid or coerced foreign government officials, oil or to stop "the evil spread of communism" that was so popular during the cold war). Do some research before you take all the propaganda the U.S. media and corrupt government officials shove down our throats next time.
And don't try responding that I'm not a patriot or love our country. I'd be first in line to defend the honor of our fine nation but many of the "officials" running the show today are corrupt and appropriate tragedies such as 9/11 to force their own, often times, bent and malicious agendas on us. Remember, when someone like Bush says, "it's in our best interest..." he really means, "it's in my best interest..." Our nation's forefathers are rolling in their graves right now. | |  TZi join:2001-07-05 Miami Beach, FL
| ignore this accidentally double-posted [text was edited by author 2002-02-26 06:17:19] | |  TZi join:2001-07-05 Miami Beach, FL
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Re: All of it is TOTAL FRAUD! I understand. I think that a fundamental mistrust in government is healthy for a democracy, and it's definitely part of our American heritage (that's why we have the right to bear arms after all). I just reacted with a knee jerk reaction because I was personally affected by 9/11, but then again who wasn't? I don't doubt the government can and will be as subversive as possible whenever they can, so I value conflicting points of view like this. However, keep in mind that there are some people who keep this issue close to their heart. Whether we get more oil out of this war or not, I really don't care. Criticize me all you will, but for many this is a war of REVENGE. That is, a war of revenge and as a result we get to rape the natural resources of their country. So what if we get oil, I don't care. Perhaps feelings of revenge are politically incorrect, but that's how I feel. To me, getting oil out of the deal is just an added bonus for having spent billions on this war already! -- Miami Hurricanes #1 (we're back!) [text was edited by author 2002-02-26 06:21:00] | |  | TZi, I can see your point but have you ever wondered if their attacking us was revenge? Perhaps it was revenge for things we did to them? Perhaps not as widely known, perhaps covered up, etc. Obviously someone is not going to go through the massive trouble of training suicide bombers to train for years, learn to fly air craft and ultimately fly into a building killing thousands without some sort of motive or impetus. That is to say, I'm sure along the way with our American-centric, who-gives-a-damn-about-anyone-but-America thinking and oil-centric foreign policy have won us over many enemies. Perhaps these people are attacking us not because they're "evil" but because we started killing them, and their families, first?
It's funny that people are "evil" only when they're not on your side. | |
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