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[OC] ASUS AM3+ Crosshair V Formula & AMD Phenom II X6 Overclocki

Re: [OC] ASUS AM3+ Crosshair V Formula & AMD Phenom II X6 Overcl

set the fan to dc mode.

set CPU voltage to 1.45 volts
set CPU/NB to 1.3 volts

I use the dot method on thermal compound been doing it that way for years with no problem. with the dot method place a dot of compound about the size of a pea in the center of the cpu and your done.

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So noted. It isn't my system so no lapping though. Lapping takes hours and a kit, and I have neither.

lapping takes sandpaper lol what kit... you go to the store and buy low to high grit sandpaper...

"Now introducing the FrozenCPU Deluxe Heatsink Lapping Kit!
What is a lapping kit? A lapping kit is a varying set of sandpaper ranging from 400 grit to 2500 grit designed to help provide a flatter surface for your heatsink"

»www.frozencpu.com/products/2888/···Kit.html

Nothing more than sandpaper.

Actually, it isn't sandpaper, it is abrasive paper, but not sand. Since you want to get technical.

I like kits simply because a sheet of glass comes with it, a thick sheet. And the people that make the kits include the right grit levels, and it wasn't always too easy to get the finer grit papers.

I now know what I didn't then, that body shop supply places carry the finer grits. But where to get a 4 x 4 inch sheet of THICK, heavy glass is still an issue.

I said kit because I HAD a kit but like all my stuff, the guy keeping it for me isn't shipping my stuff to me (I moved), I don't know why yet...

EDIT:

I kit I used to have had special paper, it was all color coded and was made of some sort of stuff where as you used it, it got better, so to speak (the paper didn't wear out as much as got finer).

It was similar to this kit, except the coarser grits were color coded too:

»www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/me···clocking

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Okay to be really technical....

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpaper

No mention of "abrasive paper"

»www.shop3m.com/60440188377.html?···odSearch 3m calls it sandpaper

Google both, you get nothing for abrasive paper compared to sand. (not sure why we got into this but...)

and kits can come with or *with out* glass as we both showed. You did not mention a kit with glass. I assumed you were just talking sandpaper my bad.

Their are no "right" grits you start low, and end high... the higher you go (you can go 3500 +) the more reflective the finish...

Either way, lapping can give worse temps if the heatsink is matched pretty good to the CPU (they aint flat either). Your temps will get worse if your cpu is very convex and the heatsink is very concave.

O btw, your link says sandpaper too.

Anyway have fun with the OCing!

Heh, I was busting your chops, guy!

Yes, one can go out and buy a full package of each grit, from, say, 400 to 2000 or so, but that will be more expensive than getting a kit with just what you need.

Yes indeed, a CPU w/IHS is going to be humped/convex in the middle perhaps, perhaps concave, perhaps a combination of them. Lapping isn't always necessary, and the primary benefit can be the polishing part of it as opposed to the mating surface part of it.

It can also make it harder or easier to remove the HS off of the IHS, due to suction.

But yadda yadda, the main thing is in making something more consistantly even surface, be it convex, flat, or concave. I've gelled 100 thousand dollar optical components so I am slightly familiar with this...

Why are we "debating this", for shits and grins, right?
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Because you heat, twist and lift your heatsinks so as not to damage anything?

Yeah, it's not "sand" its aluminum oxide powder, and you need a piece of float glass and some ketchup to test your flatness, it's both very effective and tangy...
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Hair dryer or oven?

and you dont park on the parkway!
lol

I like the ketchup part here not sure if serious (I dont lap stuff but tbh I kinda like the idea if not serious)

pic = win.

Actually I do use it, the grain of the cheap ketchup is fine enough no cause problems while being both high contrast and transparent enough for you to gauge your flatness with just your eyes and the aforementioned thick square of float glass, since float glass is extremely flat to begin with.

As for the heat thing, iirc, »/profile/520600 damaged a CPU or 2 by yanking them off with the heatsink, something I've never managed to do in the do in the 14 years I've been rebuilding comps
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I hope you're not trying to indicate that I am somehow stupid here. The processor that froze to the HS came out with the HS and the pins got bent. It is not uncommon for it to be difficult to remove an HS from the surface of an IHS. The processor was salvaged.

A recent build for somebody that used the stock cooler and stock pad, well, it took 8 minutes to free the HS off of the IHS, twisting, turning, firmly prying it off. THAT is not a measure of a man's skills, it is the reality of the "suction" of 2 well mated surfaces with goo that is like glue.

In all your 14 years, have you used Liquid Pro? Have you spent 16 hours lapping the HS so it is perfect? Have you overclocked to 30% a Toledo processor in the, erm, process?

You're a nice, guy, so why are you trying to make me out to be a dumbass?

I don't yank, that is an unfair characterization. Once again I will ask: How do you heat your CPU prior to removal, or do you?

I am glad you are lucky, but bragging on luck doesn't prove you are a better person.
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I call karma! Bashed me in a thread, got based yourself (be it in a different order lol)

For info of anyone checking.

Ya sometimes _____'s rip out the heatsink with the CPU on it. The best thing is to *not* do it in the first place.

Ways not to... replace the paste often (stuff like AS5 is only meant to be good for a few years before being a PITA to remove)
Don't use paste that is glue (dur, some paste yes, is meant to glue the HS to the CPU... so that is a dur thing)

If you have trouble popping the heatsink right off... run the rig under something like intel burn test, let everything get nice and hot... shut down and quickly (faster the better as it is all just cooling now) try to turn the heatsink left and right. If it breaks loose, sweet... if not, try again. Heat is pretty much the only thing that is gona give you help here.

If you did end up having the CPU stuck to the end of the heatsink (be it skipped some steps or just had bad luck) you can take a hair dyer, and use it to heat the CPU/ heatsink. Most hair dryers really aint gona pass 125F overall temp... so no real risk of CPU damage however with a nice HS attached... it will take a while, you could also use a heat gun... this be careful with as 1200F + is more the range these things are gona be putting out.

Using the same idea, twist the CPU... also try to put some rubbing alcohol (or CPU TIM cleaner) on the HS/CPU to loosen the hold.

Now some other ways I never checked... Freeze the whole thing (tim becomes brittle/shrinks) small screw driver prying on all edges (keep in mind this could scratch the ISH / HS and could damage the CPU as you are prying on it) us dental floss to kinda "cut" the tim between the IHS and HS, you got the soak the CPU in 90-99% isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol.

And if you do bend pins... a mechanical pencil with out the lead works great to bend them back *SLOWLY and CAREFULLY* as if they pop off your fed.

This is kinda OT so sorry for any grammar fails... I typed it really fast as it does not really answer the OP just a question later on.

Yes, indeed I am aware of using a blow gun ("hair dryer") and using a freezer, but I am interested in knowing what people actually do. So for YOU, you never froze things. Have you actually USED a blower, or are you just talking about it?

In my box of things is a heat shrink tubing blower, but I don't know if I will ever see it again (stuff is out of state and I've been waiting for it).

Sorry if you feel I've "bashed" you, but consider what I am saying, all you have to do is talk like a high school graduate and not give advice off the cuff. You don't see me saying these things to others, but to you. Others here have agreed with me and you didn't take the hint.

lolz, OMG, ya.

Friend, this is an adult forum, is there some crime with wanting people to BE adults? If you pull stuff out of your arse instead of speak from experience, and I call you on it, that doesn't make me a wanna be mod, it means I am concerned with new people being steered down the road without a wreck. lolz.

And why are you posting anonymously? You've already said to us that you used to post as a member and that you got in trouble, right? lolz.
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