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bluedyedvd

join:2007-04-15
Overland Park, KS

Why are people always dumping on giganews?

supernews is a giganews reseller and is now competing directly with astraweb with price and retention. People are always complaining about all the dmca takedowns on giganews but newshosting aka highwinds always get the same takedowns so why is giganews the bad guy? Most posters now adays expect the takedowns so they put in more pars so it can still be repaired.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2

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said by bluedyedvd:

supernews is a giganews reseller and is now competing directly with astraweb with price and retention. People are always complaining about all the dmca takedowns on giganews but newshosting aka highwinds always get the same takedowns so why is giganews the bad guy? Most posters now adays expect the takedowns so they put in more pars so it can still be repaired.

Supernews isn't a reseller. It's owned by Giganews. Giganews/Supernews has better completion then Newshosting (Highwinds) even with DMCA factored in. Highwinds has completion issues in addition to DMCA.

As to why people are hating on Giganews itself, it's probably the price they charge for usenet. Not talking about Supernews. But Giganews itself. Giganews's unlimited plans are $25 and $35 a month. While other usenet providers are charging $11 or less a month for unlimited. Giganews is charging that kind of money and is removing content (DMCA). A couple of other providers charge less then half then Giganews and don't remove content (DMCA) and have good completion.

With the recent changes with Supernews, they are now very competitive against Highwind and it's resellers. Supernews offers better completion (even with DMCA) at competitive prices and retention.

I personally think the recent changes with Supernews is a sign that Giganews is feeling the pinch from it's less expensive competitors. It's Giganews's way of competing with their less expensive rivals while trying to maintain their "Premium" usenet brand name.

unoriginal
Premium
join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA
reply to bluedyedvd
Agree with Stem Bolt. Except for GN offering their VPN service, which can easily be found at $5-10/mo if really needed, they don't offer anything better than what can be found elsewhere. Some people cling to the idea that if it costs more it must be better. I, and lots of others, dont really seem to agree that it would be the case with GN. Especially with the increased retention on Supernews there really isnt any reason to pay more for GN anymore.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
reply to bluedyedvd
Lets see:
triple the price of many reputable companies.
DMCA takedowns


90115534
Someone is sabotaging me.Finding out who
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
reply to Stem Bolt
said by Stem Bolt:

said by bluedyedvd:

supernews is a giganews reseller and is now competing directly with astraweb with price and retention. People are always complaining about all the dmca takedowns on giganews but newshosting aka highwinds always get the same takedowns so why is giganews the bad guy? Most posters now adays expect the takedowns so they put in more pars so it can still be repaired.

Supernews isn't a reseller. It's owned by Giganews. Giganews/Supernews has better completion then Newshosting (Highwinds) even with DMCA factored in. Highwinds has completion issues in addition to DMCA.

As to why people are hating on Giganews itself, it's probably the price they charge for usenet. Not talking about Supernews. But Giganews itself. Giganews's unlimited plans are $25 and $35 a month. While other usenet providers are charging $11 or less a month for unlimited. Giganews is charging that kind of money and is removing content (DMCA). A couple of other providers charge less then half then Giganews and don't remove content (DMCA) and have good completion.

With the recent changes with Supernews, they are now very competitive against Highwind and it's resellers. Supernews offers better completion (even with DMCA) at competitive prices and retention.

I personally think the recent changes with Supernews is a sign that Giganews is feeling the pinch from it's less expensive competitors. It's Giganews's way of competing with their less expensive rivals while trying to maintain their "Premium" usenet brand name.

It was bound to happen sooner or later!

I wonder if Easynews was too and that is why they offer unlimited monthly accounts now ?
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90115534
Someone is sabotaging me.Finding out who
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
reply to unoriginal
said by unoriginal:

Agree with Stem Bolt. Except for GN offering their VPN service, which can easily be found at $5-10/mo if really needed, they don't offer anything better than what can be found elsewhere. Some people cling to the idea that if it costs more it must be better. I, and lots of others, dont really seem to agree that it would be the case with GN. Especially with the increased retention on Supernews there really isnt any reason to pay more for GN anymore.

That is true but supposedly more new stuff is on the way who knows what. The only thing I can see is MIMO but it looks ugly and uses java eek.
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It it always surprising that the first people who reply to a lot of topics are always from that place? Not to me it isn't. I have my eye on them. Like I said before they don't fool me.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
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join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2
reply to 90115534
said by 90115534:

said by Stem Bolt:

I personally think the recent changes with Supernews is a sign that Giganews is feeling the pinch from it's less expensive competitors. It's Giganews's way of competing with their less expensive rivals while trying to maintain their "Premium" usenet brand name.

It was bound to happen sooner or later!

I wonder if Easynews was too and that is why they offer unlimited monthly accounts now ?

Highwinds probably made the change and are now offering unlimited as a means to increase profits from Easynews. With all the cheap unlimited options available now, Easynew's old business model probably needed updating to make it more competitive in todays market. Easynews's big draw is it's browser based access to binaries. Users still pay a premium for that. This is all opinion and speculation on my part of course.


45612019

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

1 recommendation

reply to bluedyedvd
Giganews' biggest problem is that they make filing DMCA complaints waaaay easier than they have to.

Look at this shit:

»www.giganews.com/legal/dmca.html
»www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html

These are both plastered prominently on the front pages of their respective sites. Astraweb and others hide it away


90115534
Someone is sabotaging me.Finding out who
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
said by 45612019:

Giganews' biggest problem is that they make filing DMCA complaints waaaay easier than they have to.

Look at this shit:

»www.giganews.com/legal/dmca.html
»www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html

These are both plastered prominently on the front pages of their respective sites. Astraweb and others hide it away

Yep I noticed that before. Maybe it will help them if they ever get sued or challenged somehow?
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It it always surprising that the first people who reply to a lot of topics are always from that place? Not to me it isn't. I have my eye on them. Like I said before they don't fool me.