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beachintech
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Re: SBG6580 Ethernet fast, wireless slow

I have yet to find a combo device I like / didn't end up causing problems for a user - and I worked for comcast for a few years and worked with them daily.

I would get a modem and router (2 devices). Put the modem behind the tv where no one can see it, and put the router in view. Only 2 cables going to it, one ethernet and one power cable. Same as what you have now with a coax cable and power cord.

Problem solved.

PaulGor
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Palo Alto, CA

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said by beachintech:

I would get a modem and router (2 devices).

Thanks. Could you please recommend a model for each? I have 12Mbps account with Comcast so I guess a modem has to be DOCSIS 3.0.

beachintech
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beachintech

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Modem does not have to be DOCSIS 3, but I would reccomend getting one anyway. I would not reccomend a Moto 6120, but either the Cisco D3 modem or the Zoom D3 modem (model numbers escape me currently)..

For a router - anything Cisco (Linksys) or Netgear would not be a bad choice. I liked my old Netgear WNDR3700. Look for something wireless N

PaulGor
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Palo Alto, CA

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Thank you for useful advice!

By the way, I just found out that wireless is "low" when I go to another room via hallway in my house (30-35 ft and walls) - does Netgear usually handles "another room" case?

JigglyWiggly
join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

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I was just testing it out, it's still walledgarden as I did not subscribe it yet, but this is not promising: (This is sbg6580 wireless)

2 feet away:
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.10.10.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
 

But then on a 5 year old wap54g in a differnet room:
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.245: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
 

This isn't promising...

beachintech
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Just about every router will handle covering most of your home just fine.

JigglyWiggly
join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

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To respond to myself in the other post, I think I am just going to return the sbg6580 for a dir-655 + zoom 5341(I already have a zoom and router here, but this is for other place)

I wanted the sbg6580 a lot because it supports 8 downstream channel bonds, but I don't have the dosh to waste on this + router. 3 ms of extra latency is nut acceptable to me.

EDIT: Done, I returned the sbg6580 ;'( so much potential

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So decided to try 2 separate devices and today installed cable modem Ubee U10Co35.32 DOCSIS 3.0 -
nope, it's bad - please advice:

with Motorola Gateway I complained in this thread about wi-fi while for direct Ethernet cable connection it worked just fine - showing speed of 12 Mbps (for which I paying to Comcast) or often even more say 15 Mbps.

With the modem I picked up in Comcast store it's first, intermitten and second, much lower, that is during an hour:

- 10Mbps
- 8
- 3.5
- 7
- 12.5
- 4.5
- then 7 again

Most of the time - 7-8 Mbps


Spoke with Comcast Support 3 times today - they re-set it from their end 2 times and suggested me to diconnect power and other cables and then connect again (did it 2 times today) -
results the same as above

As I still have my Motorola (did not ship it yet back to Amazon) I decided to see what happens if I connect Motorola Gateway with Ethernet cable (hoping that Comcast has this device registered and thus it will recognize it)

With Motorola Gateway direct connection (same coax and Ethernet cables - just diconnected them from Ubee modem) the results are the same as all last week:

- most of the time - 12.5 and much more rare a fluctuation such as say
- 12.5
- 12.0
- 9.5
- then 12.0 again

That is, close values and all close to 12!

*********

Is it a known issue for Ubee modems?

So should I bring this Ubee modem back to Comcast and ask for another model? Which one should I ask for? Or it's just my luck and that specific device was bad while generally Ubee modems are good?

I could avoid getting my $129 back from Amazon and use Motorola Gateway as modem only - as some one suggested earlier in this thread (as Comcast shipped Netgear N-1000 wi-fi router to me - to work with Ubee modem and I've already received it) but it's kind of too expensive to have just cable modem for $129

Also, if I return Ubee back and thus stop monthly service fee of $7 they probably will ask me to bring back Netgear wi-fi router, too, so I would need to buy my own and thus add more $$ to those $129
PaulGor

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Tried to use Motorola Gateway as cable modem only and use Netgear N-1000 wi-fi router -
only to find out that wireless is ALSO shows "Low" in another room!
Same thing as with wi-fi provided by "combo" Gaterway

Netgear - as far as I have read - has usually good "house coverage", so it could be my house walls (paper SFBA walls) are too tough for wi-fi routers