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Stu Pidaso

join:2006-10-12
Greenwood, IN
kudos:2

[ps3] PS3 YLOD assist with diagnosis.

PS3 80 gig fat ylod last night and first time dealing with it. Will try to give a detailed scenario in proper order. Watching a DVD movie and about 30 minutes into movie is when it just up and quit. The movie was from redbox so my biggest concern was to get the disco out of the PS3 asap. Searching on line I found suggestions of holding the eject button while turning power switch on to get PS3 into fan cycle mode. This did not happen although the fan comes on for a brief second before shutting self off/ylod.

I noticed in the videos of people who were able to get their disc to eject that the eject mechanism would make a sound as if it was trying to eject when they would first power it up. Mine was making no sound at all. I proceeded to take the PS3 apart and was able to get the disc out. While I had it apart I did take a voltmeter to the power connection for the Bluray drive and was able to verify power is working. With the unit reassembled (confirmed all connections are good) the drive does not want to accept a disc whether while in standby or right when turning the power on.

My research shows this may possibly be the laser assembly itself as it has something to do with sensing the disc being inserted, is this a possibility?


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

I wouldn't rule it out; though I would suggest remedying the YLOD issue first.

Then again, YLOD and a BD drive going bad? It might be time to send that thing in to Sony.
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Because, f*ck Sony


Stu Pidaso

join:2006-10-12
Greenwood, IN
kudos:2

said by C0deZer0:

I wouldn't rule it out; though I would suggest remedying the YLOD issue first.

Then again, YLOD and a BD drive going bad? It might be time to send that thing in to Sony.

What I am trying to figure out thought is will a bad BD drive or something wrong with it cause a ylod. I saw a video where someone unhooked the BD drive and caused a ylod. Trying to find out if the ylod is definite solder issue.


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

Considering the myriad of reports of what happens with a bad or dying BD drive in a ps3 out there... no, not in itself. But weirdly, a defective BD drive will actually prevent you from being able to update (or downgrade) a ps3, since I guess some part of that update file is code that is flashed to the BD drive, even.

Most of the time, the solder issue it is... YLOD is like the RROD on the (phat) 360's. It's a code for "general hardware failure"... and it can't itself tell you what failed. Lead-free solder + extremely hot CPU/GPU = a lot of that.

Reflow would be worth a try... relatively cheap to do long as you know what you're doing. But that's a temporary fix. Permanent fix would be a full resolder with leaded BGA solder for the GPU and GPU. Except the hardware and labor for that is very expensive, and with good reason.
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Because, f*ck Sony


easonin
Rock Ridge, FL

join:2008-07-08

reply to Stu Pidaso
Last week, I had my 40 gb fat ps3 ylod on me, and I was pissed, to say the least. So I did the flux/heat gun fix, and low and behold, it worked!!! BUT, of course I forgot to plug in the fan, and after about 15 minutes, it ylod'ed again. No surprise. But I did the fix again, and it worked, again!!! But it'll only stay on about 10 minutes at a time now with minimal heat on the case. I only need it to stay on for about 30 minutes so that I can back up the drive, which I failed to even think about in the 4 years i've had it.
What i'm going to do this week is, do the flux/heat gun fix, put it in a cooler full of ice and cool it down for about a half hour, then run it and quickly get the backup done. I think it'll work.
I could chance sending it to Sony, but i'm not guaranteed that i'll get the same one back, from what i've heard.
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...nobody tells me nothing.



SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to Stu Pidaso
If you are TLODing then the problem is likely the solder contacts to your processor(s) have gone bad. Most people recommend a reflow, but from what I have seen this is only a temporary fix. The solders used in the PS3 are of substandard quality due to regulations limiting the amount of lead on it. I recommend finding somebody who can to a reball on your machine. This is where you melt away all of the solder contacts connecting the processor to the board and putting in better solder. It's a much more lasting solution, but more involved than just doing a reflow.


Stu Pidaso

join:2006-10-12
Greenwood, IN
kudos:2

I hear what all of you are saying and not trying to argue but I would find it very odd that a bad solder joint on the CPU would cause the BD drive not recognize that I am trying to put a disc in the slot.

I am not afraid to reflow as I already have a heat gun, just trying to avoid it because I know it is a short term fix.


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