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Time Warner Cable Abandoning Analog - All Digital 5 Years

Time Warner Cable has announced it will cease analog cable television service within five years, as the cable company embarks on a wholesale transition to all-digital cable.

The announcement came from CEO Glenn Britt during this morning’s investor conference call, and represents a major transition for the cable operator and its customers.

“We always said we would supplement switched digital video with going all-digital,” Britt said. “Our plan is to migrate all systems to all-digital over the next five years.”

I posted more details and audio about some of the other changes coming to TWC over on Stop the Cap!

»stopthecap.com/2011/07/2 ··· systems/
»stopthecap.com/2011/07/2 ··· r-money/
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YES! Finally!

It's about damn time!

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Time Warner Cable made a said in a FCC filing that they supported the measure to allow for 1 way integrated security HD-DTA's.
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Motorola did announce a HD-DTA with a RF remote.
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Yeesh. 5 years?

That is way too long.

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Way too long, Comcast did this two years ago and isn't subjecting anyone to the broken-bandaid of SDV.

But better late than never.

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I guess TWC wants to wait and see. Comcast still has some analog only areas here and there, or low bandwidth digital areas. TWC could do it in less time, but they might also do it one system at a time. It takes a while to do this kind of migration. Everything has to be working 100 percent before it gets deployed.

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I find it interesting that there are less complaints in motorola headend areas with SDV than those with CISCO headends and Cisco SDV servers.
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said by rv65:

I guess TWC wants to wait and see. Comcast still has some analog only areas here and there, or low bandwidth digital areas. TWC could do it in less time, but they might also do it one system at a time. It takes a while to do this kind of migration. Everything has to be working 100 percent before it gets deployed.

more than likely Augusta Maine is a test area to see what needs to be done nationwide.
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Huh, that's a first. We're always last for these things. Interesting... and I'm surprised they're starting in a Motorola area.

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The first DTA's were for Motorola headends. Cisco later made their own DTA, but Moto was the first to make this happen. Now we have uDTA's which can work with both Motorola and Cisco.
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Motorola and Evolution have HD-uDTA's, which are DTA's with an HDMI out. It does support HD, but not composite video. It also has an RF remote, though I'm not sure if it supports IR. RF might be bad, but someone could use an IR/RF converter or something like that. HD-DTA's are in TWC's future, but we shall see.

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Some other Comcast systems are going all digital also. Northern NJ will loose limited basic by August 30th. IE) NO analog channels, except for maybe a barker or solid color screen on the amplifier AGC channel (Usually channel 61 or 70).

I have Service Electric Cablevision, a very tiny operator in PA. They axed most of their analog too. The only analog left is 2-28 and channel 70 is a grey screen used for amplifier automatic gain control, and channel 135 is a duplicate of channel 2 (bulletin board) used for 860MHz amplifier balancing.

Surprised TWC, a big name in cable didn't give analog the axe yet. Maybe it's all those CISCO systems they have out there and the lack of compatible DTA's.

SDV is a great idea, but the added complexity causes issues. It's about time that TA firmware update is circulating that supports more than 2 tuners per tuning adapter for Tivos.
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Comcast here in South Florida went digital a few years ago. It's been great. I'm surprised TWC hasn't done it yet.

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I agree with the other people in this thread. About damn time for this to happen.

What's wrong with SDV?
45612019 (banned)
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"Channel is not available"

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Never had that issue at all.

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said by trparky:

What's wrong with SDV?

Never really thought about it..... but is/was a good question.

BUT.....Exactly what is/was wrong with it ?

I don't have a clue as to what I dislike[d] about it.
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Either you don't watch a lot of TV or you're lucky.

It's a famous Time Warner problem related to their SDV system.

»www.google.com/search?q= ··· vailable

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said by 45612019:

Either you don't watch a lot of TV or you're lucky.

It's a famous Time Warner problem related to their SDV system.

»www.google.com/search?q= ··· vailable

Amazingly, Comcast and FIOS have the same "channel not available" messages and they don't have SDV:
»www.google.com/search?q= ··· vailable
»www.google.com/search?q= ··· vailable

"Channel not available" is usually a signal issue, not particularly a SDV specific issue.

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said by 45612019:

Either you don't watch a lot of TV or you're lucky.

It's a famous Time Warner problem related to their SDV system.

Nope , don't watch allot TV but it's always on. Can honestly say
I haven't seen the no channel thing, so I guess I got lucky.
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Amazingly, Comcast and FIOS have the same "channel not available" messages and they don't have SDV

Now, that I can address personally. I have Comcast in my home in
Florida [4 1/2 months a year] and I can attest to the fact that error
indeed pops up. And I wasn't aware we had or didn't have switched
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So I take this to mean that when digital-only is implemented, I'll need a DTA for each of my TVs unless I decide to purchase digital channels and get a STB for each (highly unlikely). It will be interesting to find out how much that will cost.
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Im in Oakland, ME (Augusta, ME market) and just got the letter of going all digital, and Have to have the box by October 19th.

»www.timewarnercable.com/ ··· oDigital

EDIT: The price: there free for now until January of 2014 after which they will be 99ยข per month.
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I have 2 non digital tv's that will need a box. I think TW is waiting till many of the non digital tv's break so they dont have to provide a zillion boxes.

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What I find interesting here in the Cleveland, OH area is that Time Warner still hasn't yet transitioned their basic cable channels to digital (clear QAM) but still has enough bandwidth to provide a decent number of HD channels with their digital basic service *and* DOCSIS 3.0.

WOW!, on the other hand, transitioned all but 20 of their basic cable channels below 100 to clear QAM a few months back (there were going to do encrypted QAM, but later changed their mind). WOW still hasn't yet officially rolled out any DOCSIS 3.0 speed tiers to compete with the 30/5(?) and 50 megabit (I forget the upstream speed) offerings that TW rolled out here a few months ago.

Maybe WOW has less bandwidth to work with than TW?
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said by Zen6:

I have 2 non digital tv's that will need a box. I think TW is waiting till many of the non digital tv's break so they dont have to provide a zillion boxes.

According to them it doesnt mater if its a digital tv or analog, you will still need a box from them, all it says that digital tv will be able to recieve local broadcasts, which im assuming would be the clearQAM channels.

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"According to them it doesnt mater if its a digital tv or analog, you will still need a box from them, all it says that digital tv will be able to recieve local broadcasts, which im assuming would be the clearQAM channels."

Agreed

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Yes, that's probably;y true. They should just put everything ATSC so people with digital sets can just plug and play as they always have. It's going to suck to have to have another piece of equipment attached to extra outlets with another remote.

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said by 45612019:

"Channel is not available"

Never had that before. I have 3 dvrs of which at least one is on 16 hours a day and can say we've never seen that before.