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Krisnatharok
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[Cooling] Thoughts on Corsair H100?

said by Corsair :

Hydro Series™ H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

SKU# CWCH100
The Hydro Series H100: Go long.

Want even more? Featuring a full 240mm radiator and two 120mm fans, the Corsair Hydro Series H100 extreme performance liquid CPU cooler is designed to deliver cooling performance that meets the needs of even the most demanding enthusiast. The Hydro Series H100 will be available in July 2011


HARDOCP.com Test Results:







Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes? I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.
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I'll preface this by saying I have absolutely no experience with the Corsair kits, I've always assembled my own parts individually.

But I seem to remember reading that the 100 uses the same pump as the 80, so the difference internally boils down to the larger radiator. And while that means a larger surface area for heat exchange, it also means more water flow resistance. And a lot of times that becomes the bigger issue. Based on the Hardocp test results, I'm not sure the dual 120 radiator is worth the mounting and space headaches.

And isn't the HAF 922 a single rear 120mm fan? It seems to me it would make more sense to use the H80's single 120 radiator, mounted to the outside, with one fan inside pushing and one outside pulling.



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I was thinking about buying it..but I still have an unopened H70. And I don't see myself spending $120 or so to get a few degree drop.



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While I do now own it (got a few buddies that do), I'd do what I said here »Corsair H100 comments, please and get a custom kit for the price, this allows you to later on add a GPU block, better pump, different rad, different CPU block, hook your ram into it... etc etc. Just so many more things you can do for just a hair more... and if you are going water cooling (at the $120 point)... TBH you should be planning on spending cash... the h70 was a nice little almost air cooler cost water cooler... but this thing is kinda IMHO going on... just get a kit. It will look better and can be expanded later on.

I mean it will work... you can also swap out for air penetrator fans... they work really nice on rads.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8fC809TK0


I mean you go custom, you can always just get a new block if the CPU socket changes and reuse the system... with anything all in one... if the OEM does not make a way to mount it... your out everything.

If you do not want the work of custom... I mean I'm sure the h100 will work well... but for the cost, I can't see that kinda money for something so tied down.


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If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?



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I meant not own it not now... I just have friends that have the kit (both linked in my other post)... my mistake and what?

said by ztmike:

If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?

said by Krisnatharok:

I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.

I'm sorry the OP makes it sound like it is being considered.../ he wants it.

Thus my reply of check out the xspc kit for only a little more (water / kill coil / etc) vs the h100 and the fans... using the different fans, as the vid shows... much better as pushing air though a rad... you can use only 2 vs 4 in push pull... and get maybe the same results (I have no tests to back that up).

No bragging I just have a mega, again my bad with the typo, saw it as soon as I hit post lol.

Other nice thing about kits OR just a custom build I left out... you can run more than one rad... so like for the OP he can run one rear 120 and one top 120 or 200 and/or even a front 200mm rad... no reason you can only have one! It is so much more flexible going with custom vs OEM.


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said by ztmike:

If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?



To clarify this point, yes the OP did ask about water cooling. In his post (see quote below) he mentions radiator which would mean water cooling.


said by Krisnatharok:

Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes? I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.



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with a radiator that size I'd just look into a custom kit and see if I could get mounting to put it int eh 5 1/4 bay's (ie 6 bays)

that one looks like the hoses are to short to go from the CPU to the front of the case and I don't know many cases that have space for dual 120's on the back (so fitment would be an issue)

now if I did a custom unit I would likely consider a triple 120 rad as I have 9 semi-empty 5 1/4 bays (semi as in they just have icages so I could mount 3x 120's there)



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said by FastEddie:


said by ztmike:

If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?



To clarify this point, yes the OP did ask about water cooling. In his post (see quote below) he mentions radiator which would mean water cooling.


said by Krisnatharok:

Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes? I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.



You do realize the H100 has a radiator right?


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Again, read the OP. His case is a HAF 922 and he wonders if the radiator of the H 100 would fit the case.


said by Krisnatharok:

Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes? I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.



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said by ztmike:

If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?

It's a fair point -- if you're going to spend the money on an H100, consider going full blown WC.

This is a fair point as I have a GTX 580 and might do a full loop at some point. Hmmmm, options.
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I kinda like it myself. The 4.4 degree improvement on the double-thickness H70 overclock temps is about what I expected. Not dramatic, but a fairly nice improvement



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said by FastEddie:


Again, read the OP. His case is a HAF 922 and he wonders if the radiator of the H 100 would fit the case.


said by Krisnatharok:

Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes? I am considering one but not sure if my HAF 922 has enough room for the radiator and fans, let alone two sets of fans in a push/pull combo.



Yes..he asked about a PREBUILT watercooler, from Corsair. NOT a custom build wc loop.


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said by Krisnatharok:

said by ztmike:

If he wanted water cooling he would of asked about it. He didn't so why brag about it?

It's a fair point -- if you're going to spend the money on an H100, consider going full blown WC.

This is a fair point as I have a GTX 580 and might do a full loop at some point. Hmmmm, options.

You are still going to pay more than what you would going with a H100. Plus you have to keep in mind you gotta do maintenance on it.

I like having a maintenance free solution that will still allow me to overclock, but if you feel the need to jump into custom water cooling then by all means go ahead but be warned its going to be a headache until you do it for awhile until you get the hang of it all.

Not to mention..you will need waterblocks for everything you plan to cool.

There seems to be better support for newcomers to water cooling with kits but their still missing parts or they include some crappy fittings.

Edit: The GTX 580 cools itself alot better than the 400 series did..and the ones with 2 dual fans like the MSI Lighting GTX 580 is really nice for cooling.


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Yeah, I got a stock EVGA 580 so I'd have to buy the Hydro waterblock from them so I don't void my lifetime warranty.



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I'd be interested to know what CPU HARDOCP.com used for their test results. Can't be much of an overclock with those temps IMHO. 72.4c on the stock Intel cooler with an overclock? Ain't gonna happen on anything above a dual core with no HT unless they're testing in a freezer. Been there/done that.

As for the H100 over the H70 you already have? I would just use the H70 in push/pull if the 120mm rad is a space concern and save the $120.



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said by Nanoprobe:

As for the H100 over the H70 you already have? I would just use the H70 in push/pull if the 120mm rad is a space concern and save the $120.

For me it is the H100 over the Megahalems I already have. It's massive, disrupts airflow, and no doubt puts a strain on the CPU socket by having 8 lbs of metal hanging off of it.
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said by ztmike:

Yes..he asked about a PREBUILT watercooler, from Corsair. NOT a custom build wc loop.

said by Krisnatharok:

Anyone have comments, observations, or personal anecdotes?

That would be a comment, you are better off with custom in that price range... your arguing with the forum mod lol and the OP already said it was a fair point... so why ya like... still fighting it lol.

As far as the OC... quote from them to lazy to use tags.."For our stock testing our i7 920 will be kept at 2.66 GHz with a minimal 1.25v. For overclocked CPU testing we will be running our i7 920 at 3.6GHz with 1.45v." that answers the how much OC part... also keep in mind they do not use intels temp sensor but they drill a valley into the CPU to place a temp probe.

As far as a headache... hardly... what maintenance are we talking about, you set it up... the good "rule" is to do a 24H leak test (everything powered off system full) and then go. At most... you are talking a water change once every 6-12months. If you stick in a kill coil and used nice distilled water *and* clean all the parts well before assembly... your talking just leave it alone for a long time.

Your sealed units are only "good" for 3 years with out a fluid change.. so "they say". After that you are getting age on them and the water inside...

I mean really... depending on how far you get into your case... you can get UV fluids (I would go UV tubing only as putting anything in your loop other than the kill coil can and will gum up stuff) but you can make the water loop look all fancy... and IMHO if you want to get a block for your vid card... it is a no brainier as well... gona need it anyway!

And just to say again... the cooler is nice... it works... if you wanta be like herp derp I haz water yay... and get good performance that h100 does it... just IMHO if I was gona spend that kinda cash... I'd go custom for the reasons I've said.


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Well, I don't see myself upgrading CPUs for a long while. The i7-920 is a workhorse and I have hit 3.8 GHz on air (albeit at higher temps than I like), so I don't see a serious CPU bottleneck for a while.

With one 580, I may end up adding a second once they drop into the $300 range, and an OC'd first gen i7 and two 580s would definitely require water.
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I love how you custom water cooling people ALWAYS come in a thread and say GO CUSTOM ITS BETTER! when the OP never even said anything about going custom water cooling in his OP.

Shit happens in every post I've seen, here and at overclock.net, its pretty damn annoying.

There is a reason people don't do custom water loops, its a pain in the ass to do if your a new comer to it and it requires maintenance or if you ever need to change out parts, that requires draining the tank-refilling and really just a pain in the ass.

The watercooler from Corsair (H series) requires NO maintenance and about 3-4 years these will last..more than enough time till a cpu upgrade or a better heatsink comes out.


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