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| Re: Ah yes said by Papageno:More like a poor state (which almost always also means a red state, of course). But they keep buying that "keep the gub'mint out of my Medicare" and "we've got a spending problem" rhetoric that the TeaTards keep spewing, so they stay poor.
I would prefer government stays out of health care, especially the DEA.
As for the spending problem, you don't feel borrowing money from China to give to Pakistan is a "spending problem"? | |
|  Wyngs
join:2010-02-20
Coos Bay, OR | Re: Ah yes said by DataRiker:I would prefer government stays out of health care, especially the DEA.
As a democratic socialist, I believe the necessities of life should be provided at COST. Health care should be a huge co-op. As manager of this co-op, who is better positioned then the government?
The insurance companies have doctors and patients by the throats. They siphon off 1/3 of the gross, and put 1/6 back in payouts - while providing nothing else at all.
I'm all for one-payer health insurance, but the corporate propaganda machine has been successful in demonizing the word 'socialist,' successful at demonizing 'unions', and will continue to feed on us when we are ALL poor.
For those 'rugged individulists' who think this is good, welcome to your dog-eat-dog world. | |
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4 edits | Re: Ah yes I'm a libertarian so I find your views insane.
Actually, they are literally impossible. I don't mean in the sense that It would be hard to do, or people wouldn't want to do it.
I mean technically impossible. At cost healthcare , like the proverbial "free energy" in chemistry / physics just can't happen.
Competent doctors are just too scarce of a resource, and even greater complication is that most of a doctors expense is intangible experience and training. | |
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| Re: Ah yes I prefer massive tort reform, then going to see a doctor would rarely require insurance anyway.
Also, private insurance should be adjusted by waistline as its done in Japan, since that is the most accurate predictor of your overall health.
This is a massive incentive for people to get healthy, because as it stands societal pressure seems nonexistent. | |
| | | | |  ParogadiWhat? Stop Looking At Me Like ThatPremium
join:2003-03-31
Racine, WI | Re: Ah yes Huh? Tort reform would do nothing to remove the health insurance racket.
The societal pressure is there, the access to cheap healthy food isn't. Try going to the ghetto, all food within reasonable distance of you has the salt, sugar and fat in it to clog your arteries just looking at it.
When you've got nothing whats the better deal? The ¢.80 Kraft mac n powdered "cheese" or the $1.50+ per pound apples?
Cities like where I live this is the norm, but we also have allot of vacant lots around and allot of park land with nothing productive growing in it, they could make a dent by at least replacing the ash trees they're cutting down due to Emerald Ash Borer infestation with a mix of fruit trees, since most of these parks are actually closer then the grocery stores. I also know from experience as my grandparents that lived in the ghetto for 40 years had alum tree and where constantly chasing the neighborhood kids out of their yard, none of them ever went to waste...
As for Japan, I'm pretty sure thats going to change now to how close to Fukushima* you live, since many people are heavily limiting their time outside.
*probably "too soon" but am I the only one that can't wait for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow Of Nippon?
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4 edits | Re: Ah yes Americans are so illogical.
The insurance racket you claim, is a product of an entirely unhealthy nation combined with too much litigation for health providers.
A government run health system provides solution to none of the above.
As for the apples to cheese comparison, the government can't regulate stupidity. Numerous studies suggest that eating healthy, makes people eat less, much much less ( insulin response, rebound hunger, ect... )
Anecdotal evidence for me all but proves it. I eat all organic mostly vegetables, beans, and rice. And I spend less than people who eat fast food 3 -4 times a day. I also consume about 1/2 the calories they do as well.
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Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by Wyngs:Health care should be a huge co-op. [...]
The insurance companies have doctors and patients by the throats. They siphon off 1/3 of the gross, and put 1/6 back in payouts - while providing nothing else at all. So what's stopping the co-op? It would be hugely successful! It would cost consumers more than a third less and pay providers about double what they're getting now! That's a fine non-socialist solution that would beat the current situation by competition.
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| | | ParogadiWhat? Stop Looking At Me Like ThatPremium
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Racine, WI | Re: Ah yes It's being done in a few places, the big problem is the barrier to entry with the big insurance companies doing all they can block them out of the market.
But even they aren't necessary and still costs more then full single payer for all. | |
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