| When will voip.ms add the '1' option to simultaneous ring? I would like to have my voip.ms home phone and my cellphone ring at the same time when a call comes in. But I have not turned this on because it is not useful unless voip.ms has things set so that I have to enter '1' before the call connects.
Maybe it is trickier to work with than I think, but google voice has this, and I seem to remember it was good to have. |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:5 | Can this not be done with Calling Queues? |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | queue means each device rings one after the other. |
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mwf
join:2000-11-26
Granite Quarry, NC | reply to Zatch
It does it and works great. You have to set up a ring group and a caller id filter to exclude your cell phone so you can call home from your cell phone. |
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OZOPremium
join:2003-01-17
kudos:2 | reply to Zatch
Are you asking for "Call Screening" (aka-Google) function support or how to make simultaneous ring on both phones?
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united state
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| said by OZO:Are you asking for "Call Screening" (aka-Google) function support or how to make simultaneous ring on both phones?
I believe this is what the OP wants:
You can set your DID to ring your ATA and cell phone at the time time. If you answer the call from your cell phone, you are presented with a greeting that states, "Press 1 to accept this call..." (or something like that).
The purpose of the above feature is to prevent your cell phone voicemail from answering the call.
I see this feature has been moved up to the In Development or Testing phase on the voip.ms support page. It has been in the Accepted / Planned for Development phase for the last several months.
Hopefully they will implement it soon! |
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 Adam4Premium
join:2011-05-30
Woodland Hills, CA | said by crazyk4952:If you answer the call from your cell phone, you are presented with a greeting that states, "Press 1 to accept this call..." (or something like that).
The purpose of the above feature is to prevent your cell phone voicemail from answering the call.
...but Google Voice accomplishes this without having to press a digit. It automagically knows when a cell-phone is not active and does not send a call to its inactive mode voice mail.
How come it seems Google Voice can do this when no other VOIP service can?
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PX EliezerPremium
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Hutt River
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| said by Adam4:...but Google Voice accomplishes this without having to press a digit. It automagically knows when a cell-phone is not active and does not send a call to its inactive mode voice mail.
How come it seems Google Voice can do this when no other VOIP service can?
But the Google Voice customer has to TELL Google Voice which phones are cell phones.
I wonder if GV can perform this "automagic" in the case of a cell phone which is registered with GV as something else.... |
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PX EliezerPremium
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| reply to Zatch
CallCentric has the [Push "1" to accept call] option available on Simultaneous Ringing.
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That's not to detract from the many fine features at Voip.MS, who are a fine provider as well as having the best chocolate chip cookies in Montreal. 
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Adam4Premium
join:2011-05-30
Woodland Hills, CA | reply to PX Eliezer
said by PX Eliezer:But the Google Voice customer has to TELL Google Voice which phones are cell phones.
I wonder if GV can perform this "automagic" in the case of a cell phone which is registered with GV as something else....
I've tested this, it cannot.
But, even so, Google Voice has the ability, for lines that are specified as cell phones, to be able to tell whether the cell phone is active or not before including it in the lines it rings within a programmed ring group, therefore allowing the ring group to continue to function without being answered immediately by the voice mail of the inactive phone.
No other service that I have experience with or have researched has the ability to do this. I am wondering why.
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PX EliezerPremium
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| said by Adam4:But, even so, Google Voice has the ability, for lines that are specified as cell phones, to be able to tell whether the cell phone is active or not....
I imagine it's the same as PAMD.
[PAMD makes me think of the Mason and Dixon line. Those two fellows were hired to survey the border between Pennsylvania (PA) and Maryland (MD). BTW, back then Delaware was considered part of PA, but that's another story.]
However, in this case PAMD is positive answering machine detection (PAMD).
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a) As your research showed, GV knows it's a cellphone because the user told it so.
b) If PAMD can detect an answering machine (rather than a human) the process to detect voicemail (rather than a human) should be the same.
c) One method for PAMD is to listen for human speech and run a timer. If the speech carries on for more than about 2 seconds it assumes it is a machine rather than a live human. That's because a human would say "Hello" or "Jenkins" or "Front Desk" and then PAUSE. A machine will keep going---"Hi this is Fred Jenkins, please leave a message".
d) Ironically, some companies promote PAMD because they WANT to leave "broadcast" messages on machine rather than talk to people live. |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | reply to Adam4
I have a bunch of voice mails that say "press one to answ" |
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OZOPremium
join:2003-01-17
kudos:2 | reply to PX Eliezer
I guess I could buy your theory here. The PAMD may explain why in smart phone SIP/XMPP vial GTalk rings first and in a couple of seconds the Mobile connection gets the call and usually overpowers the first SIP call... leaving in frustration users, who would like to take the call with SIP client first...
(assuming that you have both mobile phone number and GTalk in the same ringing group, of course)
In other words, the delay in couple of seconds in ringing the call via two channels (mobile and GTalk) could be caused by PAMD taking time for its work.
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PX EliezerPremium
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| I have reviewed many patent filings in this area.
Detection systems employ methods as basic as the one I described, or complex analyses of words and sentence structure.
We know that all this fits neatly into Google's basic research, just as the now defunct 1-800-GOOG-411 was a research project into speech patterns. |
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MartinMPremium,VIP
join:2008-07-21
Montreal, QC | reply to Zatch
An option to have you confirm the call by pressing 1 with ring groups will be implemented to avoid a voicemail stealing the call in a ring group. Hunting as well is almost ready.
Both options (Hunting and DTMF Confirm) will be released at the same time. Our devs have it working, but it could take a few more months before becoming available on the portal. I don't have an ETA but my guess would be around october.
Hunting will include Ring Groups, SIP URI's, Forwarding entries, Main Account and Sub accounts. Both Hunting and ring groups (AKA Simul Ring) will have the option so you won't be forced to use hunting to use the option.
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PX EliezerPremium
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Hutt River
kudos:12 | Very nice, thanks to you and your team!  |
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OZOPremium
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kudos:2 | reply to MartinM
MartinM  , what is "hunting"? |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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Onion, NJ | said by OZO: MartinM , what is "hunting"?
that's where an incoming call rings the next available extension.
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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Onion, NJ | so you have 4 lines coming into a business 800-555-1210, 1211,1 1212, and 1213. You tell your customers to call 555-1210, if a call comes in it rings the lowest number that is not in use.
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OZOPremium
join:2003-01-17
kudos:2 | reply to AVD
So it's essentially the same case (protection from stealing calls by voicemail), but for ringing group, where ringing is managed rather sequentially in some order, than simultaneously. Right?
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