 MartinMPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 Montreal, QC | reply to OZO
Re: When will voip.ms add the '1' option to simultaneous ring? An example of the way our call hunting will work.
Let's say you want 5 members in your Call Hunting. You add the following:
Member 1: Ring Group X Member 2: Main Sip Account Member 3: Sub Account Y Member 4: Call Mobile Number 555-222-1234 Member 5: Call SIP URI john@smith.com
Each member can have their own ringing time, so let's say you set them up like this:
Member 1: Ring Group X - 4 Rings Member 2: Main Sip Account - 3 Rings Member 3: Sub Account Y - 2 Rings Member 4: Call Mobile Number 555-222-1234 - 4 Rings Member 5: Call SIP URI john@smith.com - 1 Ring
Now, you don't want your caller to hangup before it reaches you if you have many members in your Hunting Group.
You have the option to play a specific recording to your caller before the hunting takes place. Example: Please hold while we try to find John.
You can also have the option to play music on hold instead of the ring tone.
You also have the option to ring the members of the hunting in the order you entered them, or randomly.
Finally, you have the option to have to Press 1 to take the call so prevent mailboxes to steal your call.
That's what is currently being worked on.
You could achieve something similar by redirecting your DID to an IVR with 1 second timeout that goes immediately to a ring group for the moment, but all the members will ring at the same time and there are no option to "Press 1 to accept the call" available yet.
Let me know if you have other questions. -- Martin - VoIP.ms |
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 OZOPremium join:2003-01-17 kudos:2 | First of all, MartinM thank you for your reply.
From your post I'm getting the impression that "Call Hunting" is just a new and more flexible way to configure ringing group. It offers additional options: 1. play a specific recording to your caller before the hunting takes place 2. play music on hold instead of the ring tone 3. ring the members of the ringing group in the order I specify, or randomly 4. option to have to Press 1 to take the call so prevent mailboxes to steal your call
Here is my perspective on those options: 1. Options 1 and 2 put a toll on caller by immediately answering the call with IVR. In this case caller doesn't have a choice, but start paying for the call. I hope the options 1 and 2 are optional indeed (sorry for tautology). And if I turn them off, caller will hear a common dial tone (and will not be charged for a call) until the call will be eventually terminated.
2. Option 3 seems very useful and powerful, if properly implemented. I hope that you'll offer users a way to create a "ringing plan", where users can put members of the group in order of ringing and specify time frames and/or other conditions. For example (based on your ringing group):
0 sec: Member 1 (24 sec), Member 4 (24 sec)
10 sec: Member 5 (5 sec), if not - then:
Member 3 (10 sec)
15 sec: Member 2 (15 sec)
20 sec: voicemail
Here is time points (on the left) and in parenthesis - the time allowed to ring (could be in sec or in number of rings). I put "20 sec" time point at the end intentionally to stop all ringing and redirect call into voicemail. In this example, ringing for member 1 and 4 begins immediately and continues (potentially) for next 24 sec. In 10 sec member 5 gets the ring. It is allowed to answer the call for next 5 sec and, if call is not answered by member 5, the member 3 gets the ring (for next 10 sec). Actually it will ring only next 5 sec and then call will be answered by voicemail. Similarly, the member 2 will ring only 5 sec (and not 15 sec, specified in the ring plan).
The GUI representation of the feature could be completely different, of course, and above is just one of the examples...
3. I hope the option 4 could be set (or or off) for each member in the group separately.
4. If user wants to ring in a random order, the ring time for each member obviously should be less then it's specified in ringing time table. Otherwise the call will be unintentionally caught by its voicemail. But personally I don't see the need for random ringing, other then just for fun. Ringing at the same time or in a specific order is much more practical.
-- Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself... |
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 MartinMPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 Montreal, QC | Recording and MOH are indeed optional hence why I referred to them as options. Ringing time will indeed be in seconds.
Hunting is not just a more fancy ring group, it actually follow an order determined by you and stop to the member that answers the call or falls to the failover or voicemail depending on how you configured your DID at the end of the dial plan.
Random order will be an option for users who don't want the hassle do go through the creation of a Queue (lots of options in there) and want simple random ringing. It was added based on the feedback of the customer base. -- Martin - VoIP.ms |
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 OZOPremium join:2003-01-17 kudos:2 | said by MartinM:Hunting is not just a more fancy ring group, it actually follow an order determined by you and stop to the member that answers the call or falls to the failover or voicemail depending on how you configured your DID at the end of the dial plan. The ability to determine the order of ringing in the group, the time to start ringing and to stop it for every member will certainly make it very useful feature. The same as the ability to specify a dial plan for sub-accounts. I just hope that someday you'll offer it to us too.
Thank you -- Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself... |
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| reply to MartinM said by MartinM:Recording and MOH are indeed optional hence why I referred to them as options.... Nice job, but please don't make us use William Shatner's music to be the MOH!
»www.squidoo.com/KirkSings
I know that the CRTC has rules about Canadian content, but even Celine Dion would be preferable to Shatner singing.  |
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 | reply to Zatch Here is a cheaper and immediate solution for you:
1. Become a user of Voxox which is totally free of charge. 2. Once you are a user, log into your account from home page, under My Account tab, My Services sub-tab, get an iNum which also is free of charge. 3. After getting a free iNum, click Settings tab, under My Phones sub-tab, click Add New Number button to add your mobile phone number then click Save button and then check Find Me and check Call Numbers Simultaneously both options. This Find Me and Call Numbers Simultaneously service is also free of charge for almost all telephone numbers in Canada and United States. 4. Since all iNums automatically have a SIP URI in the format of 8835100xxxxxxxx@inum.net, you can configure your DID with VoIP.ms to have it simultaneously ring Voxox iNum DID via iNum SIP URI which will be cheaper than via PSTN. Voxox will ring your mobile phone simultaneously, and you will have to press 1 to connect call. You will also be presented with other options such as call recording and dead-end the callers by letting you to press different number.
Herein above-mentioned method actually will work for all VoIP DIDs for free. For those DIDs can be forwarded via SIP URI such as free DIDs from IPKall and IPComms (Last time I checked, IPComms had trouble reaching iNum.net SIP URI), simply forward via iNum SIP URI to Voxox for simultaneously ringing of mobile phone(s). For other DIDs require registration such as free DIDs from sipgate one, free hosting PBX service like one offers by PBXes can do the registration and ringing Voxox via iNum SIP URI and consequently simultaneously ringing of mobile phone(s). |
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 | reply to Zatch I've been patiently waiting for this feature for quite some time now, perhaps almost two years.
I'm merely interested in the press 1 or some button to accept the call.
I've been reviewing my primus bills and just hate the monthly fees that I've been paying them instead of inexpensive fees from voip.ms.
Can't wait for the feature to port my main line over. |
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 | reply to pinky321 said by pinky321:... Become a user of Voxox which is totally free of charge. ... Unless you have VoxOx do all inbound routing, this won't work, because Voxox gives immediate false answer supervision on all DIDs, even iNum. VoIP.ms would see the VoxOx leg as answered and stop ringing the SIP device. |
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 | reply to MartinM said by MartinM:Both options (Hunting and DTMF Confirm) will be released at the same time. Our devs have it working, but it could take a few more months before becoming available on the portal. I don't have an ETA but my guess would be around october.
Hi MartinM. I've just submitted my port out from Primus to voip.ms. Can't wait for this feature. Pls PM me if you need beta testers.  |
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 | reply to Zatch Port has been completed to VOIP.MS. Patiently waiting. |
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 | reply to Zatch How about a callback service for call queues? I.e. if hold times are too long, the person calling has an option of pressing 1 to request a call back. The system then prompts the person calling to dial the phone number they can be reached at and the system would automatically send an email with that phone number and timestamp of the call. |
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 | reply to MartinM said by MartinM:Both options (Hunting and DTMF Confirm) will be released at the same time. Our devs have it working, but it could take a few more months before becoming available on the portal. I don't have an ETA but my guess would be around october. I'm not holding you to the October timeframe, but thought you might have an update on progress so far.
Thanks MartinM! |
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 | Hi MartinM. Could you provide an update on this item? |
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 | reply to Zatch I'm also anxiously awaiting an update to this question. It seems like this feature has been in testing for a long time now. |
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 | Any news on this? I could really use a Simulring + Press 1 to answer feature soon. Actually, I'd prefer the Google Voice way.
From what I can tell, if you specify your forwarding phone in GV as mobile and when your cell rings and you answer RIGHT AWAY, you get prompted to Press 1 to answer, if you wait a few seconds and then answer, you don't get a prompt to Press 1.
That's exactly what I would like, a time sensitive Press 1 feature, not always enabled and not always disabled. From what I can tell, GV is the only one that has this, am I correct in that assumption? |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:8 | I believe Anveo added this feature a couple of months ago, in response to a customer suggestion. |
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| reply to Madwand said by Madwand:Hi MartinM. Could you provide an update on this item? He said October and it's less than 7 months until October, so please be patient.  -- Main provider: Anveo - Secondary providers: Callcentric, CallWithUs, Localphone, Rebtel and VoIP.ms Hosted PBX: PBXes.org - Phone: Gigaset S685IP --- PC OS: Ubuntu 11.10 |
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| reply to BinaryTB said by BinaryTB:That's exactly what I would like, a time sensitive Press 1 feature, not always enabled and not always disabled. From what I can tell, GV is the only one that has this, am I correct in that assumption? I didn't know that GV's was time sensitive, I don't know of anyone else who has it to that degree, so you'd be correct.
CallCentric does offer the "press 1" option on their Simulring feature and their Hunting feature (both under Call Treatments). |
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| reply to Mango said by Mango:I believe Anveo added this feature a couple of months ago, in response to a customer suggestion. I must say, Anveo deserves to steal Avis Rent-A-Car's old slogan, "We Try Harder." Overall, I am very, very happy with voip.ms, but I'm starting to feel seriously envious toward Anveo users what with Anveo's gazillion nifty features and their amazing responsiveness to user requests compared to voip.ms's absolutely glacial feature development pace.
Time-proven stability is my highest priority, especially when setting up clients with VSPs. And that keeps me with voip.ms and CallCentric for now. However, I'll seriously consider switching to Anveo when it reaches its second year anniversary if they continue being so nimble, reliable, and innovative. |
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| said by borntochill:However, I'll seriously consider switching to Anveo when it reaches its second year anniversary if they continue being so nimble, reliable, and innovative. Sorry, you are too late for the second year anniversary party.  -- Main provider: Anveo - Secondary providers: Callcentric, CallWithUs, Localphone, Rebtel and VoIP.ms Hosted PBX: PBXes.org - Phone: Gigaset S685IP --- PC OS: Ubuntu 11.10 |
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