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DaveDude
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so this isnt captialism

Everyone complains about capitalism . Well we dont have a competitive market. So shouldn't all the socialist be happy ?

Alex J
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What the what? Because anyone who complains about pricing is a socialist against capitalism? Sociasts love noncompetitive markets? This country's school system clearly needs a little work.

HappyAnarchy
@iauq.com

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Yeah, because socialism is all about letting monolopies walk all over people for more money. That is totally what socialists like.

That said, I hate to be defending AT&T at all, ever, but it is a bit disingenious to say the average Sprint user uses double theirs so why are they not having problems? Because Sprint has significantly less users than AT&T - not saying AT&T doesn't have problems with congestion and shouldn't build out their network, or that they didn't make mistakes by doing it. I would just prefer we criticize them for valid reasons to make our points less easy to dismiss.

jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Sterling, VA

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said by HappyAnarchy :

That said, I hate to be defending AT&T at all, ever, but it is a bit disingenious to say the average Sprint user uses double theirs so why are they not having problems? Because Sprint has significantly less users than AT&T - not saying AT&T doesn't have problems with congestion and shouldn't build out their network, or that they didn't make mistakes by doing it. I would just prefer we criticize them for valid reasons to make our points less easy to dismiss.

Are you suggesting that AT&T is overselling subscriptions to their wireless network? The last report that I read indicated that AT&T's network performance was equal to or better than Sprint's in most regions across the country. The issue with the much lower data usage is not due to congestion or the number of subscribers, it's the high cost of the plans combined with the steep penalties for going over the limit.

Verizon smokes Sprint in performance in most of the places I frequent, yet the average Sprint user consumed more data.

I think the point being made in the report is spot on. It's the pricing and caps that are holding people back.
elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA

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said by DaveDude:

Everyone complains about capitalism . Well we dont have a competitive market. So shouldn't all the socialist be happy ?

You have, at a minimum, 4 major sellers of wireless data, with several minor players in many markets.

Sorry to say, but you do have competition. It may not bring you the price point you want, but it is delivering the product to market, and the price/bit has come way down from years ago.
antidelldude
join:2003-12-22
Beverly Hills, CA

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That's your piss poor definition of competition. Mine is multiple carriers with similar services, coverage, and quality. They all vary greatly carrier to carrier, market to market. Thus, competition is only existent for the ignorant that can't tell the difference, or the money conscious that don't care about the difference.