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billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
kudos:2

Talking and surfing the internet at the same time

Why does ATT say only their network can let you talk and surf the internet at the same time? I have an LG Vortex and I am able to do it on Verizon Wireless. I just called my home while on the phone browser typing in weather on google. Nothing prevented me from doing this, I still heard my father's voice on the phone, all while seeing the weather page load. So much for ATT marrketing.


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
Only 4G VZW phones can talk and surf (via data) at the same time


Cody
Bob Vance, VR
Premium
join:2002-05-28
Spokane, WA
Can they do this on 3g network with a 4g capable phone, or is this a limitation of the network and not the phone?
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Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
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I think the way the chip sets are in 4g phones are you can talk and surf on either 3g or 4g

billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
kudos:2
reply to Jackarino
said by Jackarino:

Only 4G VZW phones can talk and surf (via data) at the same time

I just did this with a 3G only phone on Verizon Wireless(LG Vortex). I don't have 4G and I was still able to talk and surf the internet, on wifi and on non-wifi/verizon 3g.

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
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I have the Vortex also and I have talked on speaker phone and been on the internet lots of times. I never thought it was anything special. BTW the Vortex is not 4G capable and there is no 4G service within 90 miles of me.
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billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
kudos:2
said by zeddlar:

I have the Vortex also and I have talked on speaker phone and been on the internet lots of times. I never thought it was anything special. BTW the Vortex is not 4G capable and there is no 4G service within 90 miles of me.

Yea, I was trying to say the vortex is a 3g phone, not 4g although we have 4g coverage here. So, ATT is wrong, we can do it.


gdm
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Mchenry, IL
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reply to billydunwood
Correct that Verizon 4G phones can but only when 4G is active. The reason is because those phones have a 2nd radio in them just for 4G. When you talk your using CDMA just like any other Verizon phone so that way you can talk/surf at the same time. once that 4G phones goes to a 3G area you can do only one of the two just like any other Verizon phone.

hoyleysox
Premium
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
said by gdm:

Correct that Verizon 4G phones can but only when 4G is active. The reason is because those phones have a 2nd radio in them just for 4G. When you talk your using CDMA just like any other Verizon phone so that way you can talk/surf at the same time. once that 4G phones goes to a 3G area you can do only one of the two just like any other Verizon phone.

Incorrect. I am currently in a 3g area and had my friend call my thunderbolt and I managed to surf while we talked on the phone.


gdm
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No it's not incorrect. You can't talk and surf on 3G CDMA it's not physically possible. When a call comes in it kills the data connection. It's known thing with CDMA technology for Sprint or Verizon.

Also if you are actually in Long Beach supposedly 4G is live.




CptGemini
Inside your computer
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join:2004-11-29
Corpus Christi, TX
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I can talk on my samsung vibrant (3G version) and surf the web at the same time. But I usually have no need to do it anyway. Of course I have it rooted and rommed.

hoyleysox
Premium
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
reply to gdm
said by gdm:

No it's not incorrect. You can't talk and surf on 3G CDMA it's not physically possible. When a call comes in it kills the data connection. It's known thing with CDMA technology for Sprint or Verizon.

Also if you are actually in Long Beach supposedly 4G is live.

[att=1]

Long Beach certainly is 4g, but I am elsewhere and my thunderbolt has displayed 3g for miles around. I stand by my surf/talk experiment. Perhaps this local VZ network is only partially 4g but the thunderbolt just displays 3g.


gdm
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reply to CptGemini
It can't be done. Just search the net here is an article discussing it »gigaom.com/mobile/how-verizon-lt···nd-data/ this is before everyone knew what Verizon would do with the 4G phones. Which ended up being 2 radios as I stated.

Down the road they could move to LTE for voice as well which would allow simultaneous voice and data. Verizon has stated they won't do that anytime soon till the LTE voice side can be as clear as the CDMA.

You can talk and surf with a 3G phone if you have wifi enabled and are connected to the internet that way.

Another article describing »www.tested.com/news/cdma-vs-gsm-···or/1630/

billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
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said by gdm:

It can't be done. Just search the net here is an article discussing it »gigaom.com/mobile/how-verizon-lt···nd-data/ this is before everyone knew what Verizon would do with the 4G phones. Which ended up being 2 radios as I stated.

Down the road they could move to LTE for voice as well which would allow simultaneous voice and data. Verizon has stated they won't do that anytime soon till the LTE voice side can be as clear as the CDMA.

You can talk and surf with a 3G phone if you have wifi enabled and are connected to the internet that way.

Another article describing »www.tested.com/news/cdma-vs-gsm-···or/1630/

Are you saying we are lying? A Lg Vortex is not 4g capable at all. I tried talking and surfing with wifi in my home, and it worked. I also tried it on 3g coverage with wifi disabled, and it still worked.

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
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·exede by ViaSat
·McDonald County ..
You can call me a lier all you want and say it isn't possible but I can still do it no matter what you say and thats what I care about. Actually I don't care either way as I could just as easily live without the possibility but I can do it and have done it. I dunno how it works, I do know voice is on one frequency and data on the other and maybe that has something to do with it but it works. My phone is also rooted and I have satellite internet so as far as wifi is concerned it is my computer that runs off of my phones wifi when I use wifi, not my phone on my computers wifi, lol.
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zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK
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·exede by ViaSat
·McDonald County ..
reply to billydunwood
You can call me a lier all you want and say it isn't possible but I can still do it no matter what you say and thats what I care about. Actually I don't care either way as I could just as easily live without the possibility but I can do it and have done it. I dunno how it works, I do know voice is on one frequency and data on the other and maybe that has something to do with it but it works. My phone is also rooted and I have satellite internet so as far as wifi is concerned it is my computer that runs off of my phones wifi when I use wifi, not my phone on my computers wifi, lol. looked something up just the other day for a friend while I was talking to her. BTW I have also talked on my phone while wirelessly tethered to my computer and surfin the internet at the same time. It doesn't even seem to slow down my connection, let alone kill it.
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billydunwood

join:2008-04-23
united state
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said by zeddlar:

You can call me a lier all you want and say it isn't possible but I can still do it no matter what you say and thats what I care about. Actually I don't care either way as I could just as easily live without the possibility but I can do it and have done it. I dunno how it works, I do know voice is on one frequency and data on the other and maybe that has something to do with it but it works. My phone is also rooted and I have satellite internet so as far as wifi is concerned it is my computer that runs off of my phones wifi when I use wifi, not my phone on my computers wifi, lol. looked something up just the other day for a friend while I was talking to her. BTW I have also talked on my phone while wirelessly tethered to my computer and surfin the internet at the same time. It doesn't even seem to slow down my connection, let alone kill it.

This is what Im saying. You and I can both do it, so if GDM is doubting us, he can do that. I know I can do it, and so can you, so we can both talk and surf at the same time

hoyleysox
Premium
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
said by billydunwood:

said by zeddlar:

You can call me a lier all you want and say it isn't possible but I can still do it no matter what you say and thats what I care about. Actually I don't care either way as I could just as easily live without the possibility but I can do it and have done it. I dunno how it works, I do know voice is on one frequency and data on the other and maybe that has something to do with it but it works. My phone is also rooted and I have satellite internet so as far as wifi is concerned it is my computer that runs off of my phones wifi when I use wifi, not my phone on my computers wifi, lol. looked something up just the other day for a friend while I was talking to her. BTW I have also talked on my phone while wirelessly tethered to my computer and surfin the internet at the same time. It doesn't even seem to slow down my connection, let alone kill it.

This is what Im saying. You and I can both do it, so if GDM is doubting us, he can do that. I know I can do it, and so can you, so we can both talk and surf at the same time

They said it couldn't be done, but I have no pics, videos or links that demonstrate me talking and surfing on my Thunerbolt in a 3g area so concede due to a preponderance of evidence.


okay

@supervalu.com
4G phones have SVDO (simultaneous voice and data) because the voice is actually using a 3G radio and the data is using the 4G LTE radio.

Of the 4G based phones, the Thunderbolt is the only device that I am aware of that can do SVDO over 3G. This is because the Thunderbolt has two 3G radios. Hence, one 3G radio can do voice, and the other 3G radio data.

Unless the Verizon phone has two 3G radios, it should not be possible. I thought the Thunderbolt was the only phone that could do SVDO over 3G because of the dual 3G radio. Folks here seem to be reporting however that other 3G "only" phones can. Again, this puzzles me as I thought the Thunderbolt was the only dual 3G radio equipped device.


youba

@myvzw.com
reply to billydunwood
I talk and surf on my Driod 2 with no problems..

shealyse
Premium
join:2004-04-15
Lexington, SC
EVDO-RevAe-HRPD

It is an enhanced version of Verizon's 3G. If they have deployed this service in your area then you can talk and surf. I am not sure if all of Verizon's 3G phones can support this enhanced standard, so it may just be certain models.

You can read some more about it:
»3g4g.blogspot.com/2008/09/ehrpd-···lte.html


gdm
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join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
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That would make sense if they've done it everywhere and as you said the phone supports it. I know the Droid Charge doesn't. I can test my Droid Bionic later and see if it supports.

I highly doubt they've upgraded all towers to this. It maybe in progress.

willzzz

join:2007-05-23
SE MI
reply to billydunwood
The enhanced standard is active in ANY area where there is 4G LTE deployed or going to be deployed (3G is upgraded at the same time).

So if you are in a upgraded VZW area (LTE is active or very soon) and have a capable VZW phone then yes.

21307513

join:2011-08-12
reply to billydunwood
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