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BHNtechXpert
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join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:79

reply to gigahurtz

Re: Updates on NFL Network Discussions

said by gigahurtz:

Thank you for the reply.

I completely understand BHN's take on this, but I do notice that MLB Network is on the standard digital tier while others are on the sports pack. What is the reasoning behind the MLB network being allowed on the basic tier but the NFL network not being allowed on there?

I personally don't watch baseball but clearly pay for this through my regular monthly fees. I'm not complaining at all but I do feel it should be consistent across the board.

Grrr why does it always end up with "well they do it why can't I?" Gigahurtz I'm not gonna go any deeper than to say this. The MLB interest is substantially higher than that for the NFL Network. You do realize that that TWC and BHN track these kind of things and they do market research constantly to insure they are meeting the viewing demands of the customer.

Both providers have received substantial feedback from all sides in this argument and the overwhemling feedback is to hold their ground and that's what they're doing. At some point will things change? Maybe...but if you want to help the process along instead of hating your local provider go to the root of the problem which is the NFL.
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gigahurtz
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join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
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·Bright House

In all the information I've seen, TV ratings for NFL games are always much higher than MLB games. Regardless, I understand BHN's stand on all of this and appreciate the reply.

I do not hate my local provider, I'm very happy with BHN! I'm simply asking for updates on an issue that I haven't heard much about over the last couple of years, that's all.


tim tim tim

join:2010-08-14
Lutz, FL
kudos:2
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·Bright House

your probably right about football games having higher ratings but also take into account that there are like 20x's more baseball games than football. Even if half as many people watched each baseball game vs football, the total viewers for a season would still be MUCH higher.

Thats just my take on it, nothing official. I dont care how its done personally, I Wont watch either and it probably wont affect my bill either way



BHNtechXpert
BHN Staff
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join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
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reply to gigahurtz

said by gigahurtz:

In all the information I've seen, TV ratings for NFL games are always much higher than MLB games. Regardless, I understand BHN's stand on all of this and appreciate the reply.

I do not hate my local provider, I'm very happy with BHN! I'm simply asking for updates on an issue that I haven't heard much about over the last couple of years, that's all.

Ratings and total viewers are different beasts. You seem to be losing track of the feedback from customers. The overwhelming feedback is to hold their ground based on the information I have seen. Providers are consumer driven machines despite what some might think. IF there was any reasonable data to support anything different you can be sure all involved would be adapting to that information.
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~All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident. - Einstein~



gigahurtz
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I see. I guess with the overwhelming popularity of the NFL and all that comes with it I'd figure that there would be far more interest for it then MLB Network. I also understand that regardless of interest, if the NFL Network is asking for too much then something has to be done.

I can continue to hope for a deal in the future - either tiered or included in base pacakge, it doesn't matter to me.



BHNtechXpert
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Don't confuse popularity with money sense. Popularity only takes you so far when it comes to the consumer wallet. Consumers love their football but they also know a money grab when they see one. The NFL has lost sight of the fact that the game is all about the fan...not the money.

Without a doubt a number of the people who have voiced an opinion against caving to the NFL's demands are football fans. Sure they want football but they aren't willing to allow the NFL to dictate to another company or to the consumer for that matter the terms of viewing and paying for said games. It also boils down to value, the way the NFL wants it you the consumer would pay all year for the right to view 8 or 9 live games and the rest of the year useless reruns and commentary.

There is little value to the consumer in that. The consumer sees this for exactly what it is...another way for the NFL to squeeze yet another dime out of you the fan and in this case whether you like it or not you would pay.
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~All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident. - Einstein~



gigahurtz
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join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
Reviews:
·Bright House

Well, there is more to the NFL Network then just 8-9 live games a season (although I realize this is one of the big selling points they try and push). It's just like the consumer paying for the MLB Network year round when the season spans only about 7 months. These channels are specific to the sport and show programs/live shows/etc related to it.

I don't just want it for the 8-9 live games, I want it because I'm a football fan and I enjoy watching all kinds of programming related to football. It seems that BHN is trying to make it sound like NFL Network wants you to pay year round for 8 live games and NFL Network is making it sound like BHN doesn't want to carry it.

Again, I don't side with anyone over this and I'm just simply a fan hoping that an agreement can be made. I can assure you, as avid sports fan, that there is a lot more money in the sport of football then there is baseball. Football has become our countries past time. I do also agree though that the NFL has become extremely greedy because of this. The most recent lockout was further proof at how this league is strictly about the money. The only reason a deal was struck is because both sides realized that there is WAY to much money to be lost of the season didn't start on time.

Again, thank you to ispgeek and tim tim tim for your updates on this issue. It seems it's still in the same spot that it was in the last time I checked. I sure hope the NFL and BHN can reach an agreement soon!


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