stolen
join:2004-04-12
Calgary, AB
kudos:2 | reply to JustinW
Re: [ALL] Ask ShawSean I can answer it for you.
There's a big jump from hop 9 to hop 10 on your shaw trace.
This is not something shaw can control. In fact, you hit the same interface in both traces outside the shaw network. That router (hop 6 on shaw, hop 8 on vpn) is routing shaw traffic differently than Telus and your VPN traffic for some reason. (unless they're using anycast for interface IP addresses and it's not really the same router, which would be odd). |
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| @stolen Yeah I see them both going through Seattle at relatively the same ping so I don't understand why the end result is so different. |
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tlhIngan
join:2002-07-08
Richmond, BC
kudos:1 | reply to ShawSean
The difference is they're coming through different ports on the Level 3 internet exchange in seattle. The VPN uses peer1 who either paid for a better peering agreement, or just has less traffic than they agreed to, while Shaw's looks to be operating close to or at capacity.
Basically, the internet exchange is a central node to where many ISPs connect to Tier 1 ISPs (like Level 3) to zip packets to far-flung destinations - across a country, a different continent, whatever. Or to pass traffic to other ISPs that they don't have direct peering arrangements with (it's the "default route" for Shaw's packets if Shaw doesn't have a better route for them).
ISPs like Shaw would have connections to several internet exchanges - one in Vancouver is often used for packets to send to another Canadian IP address.
Your VPN service uses Peer1 as a backbone, and apparently Peer1 decided zipping the packet to New York and back was faster (perhaps because the Vancouver-Seattle link is heavily utilized). The port Peer1 uses is probably less congested than Shaw's. At this stage, the links are point to point so there's no chance a packet can arrive through another port (this is for traffic flow measurement and billing). Peer1 has a lot of private infrastructure and backbone links, so its backbone is probably reserved for its traffic only. |
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| Thanks for taking the time to explain that. I'll have to keep my fingers crossed for better peering. |
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 ShawSean
join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC
kudos:12 | reply to ShawSean
Thanks stolen and tlhIngan - excellent information as always.
Cheers,
Sean
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ShawSean
join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC
kudos:12 | reply to ShawSean
Seems I need to bump my thread - for those DSLR members/lurkers that require support on their Shaw services, please don't hesitate to post your questions here.
Cheers.
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What is the Deal with Shaw and Europe? |
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| Is Shaw throttling connections to Europe to 350KB? What other explanation is there for what we are seeing? Not likely. I've hit 50 mbps to Astraweb's european servers on my BB50 connection. Who knows what one of the peering or transit networks is doing. It is their AS, they can do whatever they want.
Who does my customer speak to about his extreme speed package actually being anything but? Shaw tech support. |
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| said by ravenchilde:Not likely. I've hit 50 mbps to Astraweb's european servers on my BB50 connection. Who knows what one of the peering or transit networks is doing. It is their AS, they can do whatever they want.
Your explanation for the same speed across two different backbone providers, backbones that in testing show no problems for anyone else not on Shaw - is that it is caprice? Coincidence? Just darn mysterious?
Level 3 - 350K
Cogent - 350K
LeaseWeb - 2.5M
As a provider how does one go about solving the the customer's problem, given your "crap happens" theory?
We really do want to solve this problem for our customer, yes we are frustrated, but we have been rigorous, and systematic, identifying each possible cause, and knocking it down - at no point did we say, lets prove that Shaw is a bad actor - that is just where the evidence led us.
I have trace routes, logs, and screen captures, 5 days thick all associated with our support ticket. I am more than willing to share - and work with anyone including Shaw, to find a better explanation, and maybe a solution. |
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Re: [ALL] Ask ShawSean said by ShawSean:Seems I need to bump my thread - for those DSLR members/lurkers that require support on their Shaw services, please don't hesitate to post your questions here.
Cheers.
I'm really annoyed tonight I decided to use that free HD rental for August and instead spends the next hour and a half troubleshooting my bloody stupid gateway that refuses to accept orders from shaw gateway support, refuses to accept pin resets, and the poor techs have no bloody way to override a damn pin lockout. SOunds like a similar problem I ran into 6 months to a year ago. Get Arris to fix the piece of crap hardware with a decent software update. One of the rare times I try to use my gateway and don't get to enjoy it because I forgot a pin I havent used in months....
Solution: Remove the middleman and have shaw host focus groups with the hardware vendor of the gateway between the the actual programmers and shaw customers..... |
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| A reset works on the other terminals - I know there is a seperate command to just erase the pins, do neither work on the Gateway? That is interesting to know.
Are the pins set seperately on each portal? Or on the Gateway for all the Portals to be the same?
I used my credit, for PPV instead, that way I could record it 
To be fair to Arris, it might not be their fault. It could be the firmware customizations done by the provider.
Is this still broken? Or did they eventually get your pin removed?
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Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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still unresolved, no command or seperate command erases the terminals pins that they have access too. |
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@pkarlos,
There is a pin reset through the arris back end portal (provisioning system). Post your question onto the shaw community site since you are registered there and someone will help you. There are also video system engineers on there that can get er done.
Kevinds: recording now is an option in 7.0.4. Your should be able to order directly from your gateway and record. Have you tried this with the new firmware? |
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 TAKN
join:2003-09-21
Calgary, AB | reply to ShawSean
Hi Sean. I sent you a PM a bit over a week ago but I have yet to hear anything back. I just wanted to double check and see if you received it. Thanks. |
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Recording VOD? That might be a good reason to get a Gateway system now.
@pkarlos
I believe you are a member already, but...
»community.shaw.ca/thread/1335
Mark says he knows the process to reset a pin, and details some of it.
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Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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| Hi kevinds,
No not vod, only ppv. This wasn't an option pre 7.0.4. |
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ShawSean
join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC
kudos:12 | reply to TAKN
said by TAKN:Hi Sean. I sent you a PM a bit over a week ago but I have yet to hear anything back. I just wanted to double check and see if you received it. Thanks.
I'm sorry if I missed your pm, I'll double check and be in touch.
Cheers.
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Sean, i upgraded to BB100 the other day.
Sometimes i peak at about 70mb download speeds but sometimes it dips super low!
I just did a Shaw speedtest and got:
31 ping, 5.62 download, 4.51 upload. Absolutely ridiculous.
I'd like an answer as to why the hell my speeds are so bad.
Thanks. |
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ShawSean
join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC
kudos:12 | said by Ambushes :Sean, i upgraded to BB100 the other day.
Sometimes i peak at about 70mb download speeds but sometimes it dips super low!
I just did a Shaw speedtest and got:
31 ping, 5.62 download, 4.51 upload. Absolutely ridiculous.
I'd like an answer as to why the hell my speeds are so bad.
Thanks.
Would have to get quite a bit more info before I could provide you with a reasonable answer. If you could register and dm me with you account details - I'll investigate the issue further.
Cheers.
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| I messaged you, thanks.
Let me know if i have to give you any more info. |
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