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Re: [ALL] Ask a Shaw Rep Shaw_Alex:
Vic West is brutal during a longer and longer peak period (no seems to run from 7-10:00 PM. This is making my work VPN sessions and any gaming painful. Any idea when the network upgrade is going to happen here.
My account is covered through work - basically more than 20 accounts, and with the complaints my boss is starting to make noises about going Telus. I do not want to go to Telus for internet...... |
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 Shaw_AlexOfficial Shaw Rep join:2010-12-16 kudos:1 | reply to rawrblam It really depends. The engineers know far in advance when nodes need to be split, so when areas become saturated it's because we haven't been able to solve the issue on schedule. I wouldn't know exactly what the delay would be, but if you send me your account number i'll do my best to find an ETA. |
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 Shaw_AlexOfficial Shaw Rep join:2010-12-16 kudos:1 | reply to WiFiRobbery If you could send me your account number or address, i'll ask one of the local techs for more information. |
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 | While not my address, this one will suffice:
750 Front Street Victoria BC |
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 | reply to ShawSean How reliable is your bandwidth usage monitor? It's documented through both first hand experience as well as archived and recent forum postings across the Internet as useless, hence your well known soft cap and consistent fluctuations in formatting the presentation of secure.shaw.ca in attempt to remedy the situation as opposed to ostensibly making it more user friendly.
Your current offering displays a broad stroke one month period that either rounds up or down decimal percentiles with no daily breakdown leaving an incredibly vague and inaccurate measurement, so vague that it cannot be taken serious for your impending bump up program and also likely why Shaw opted against implementing Usage Based Billing.
Now here is my problem with it, your inability to track statistics to a high degree of accuracy has left many people with a false sense of security that going over is casually accepted, but they will soon come to find out that is not the case, instead they will find themselves being pestered by a bandwidth enforcement member that will initially be understanding even to individuals deflecting responsibility by blaming malware, unsecured networks or whatever excuse seems plausible. I have recently received one of these calls, and I acknowledged I'd exceeded my package limit with things like torrents, Shaw and a premium newsgroups along with high quality video streaming.
Now with all cards on the table and sunlights disinfecting properties shining bright on my situation I knew I would have to scale back well within the paltry perimeters of my 25mbit service, and since I feel I've been honest about my usage I hope you can put a modicum of credence into my next observation about Shaw's broken bandwidth monitoring.
Since the start of this months recurring billing cycle I have kept heavy tabs on my usage to compare and contrast against Shaw. Currently Shaw has me pegged at approximately 93 gigabyte usage over the course of 6 days while I show 53 as monitored through Network Connections. The past day I made a conscious effort to sparsely utilize my connection which ultimately resulted in 2 gigabyte usage, Shaw tabulated it at 7. So while tying up some loose end downloads that were ceased after being admonished I am shown to have used nearly half my monthly allotment in less than a week. That is unacceptable, just like I acknowledge my excess was, but this is particularly bad embellishment that will likely happen to more people so long as Shaw demonstrates a glaring deficiency in stat tracking.
And while this statement has gone on for too long I must say Shaw has failed to provide a suitable package for pragmatic consumers, as a "power user" I've yet to experience a single scenario of 25mbit not being sufficient to download or stream hd content or be competitive in online gaming, only the data bandwidth requires a substantial boost, a boost that would happily be paid for so long as it didn't involve acquiring another modem and unnecessary throughput.
As for the egregious and maybe criminal stat padding, I will play it by ear, I suspect another phone call soon enough but I will be sure to have my ducks in a row to combat baseless allegation. Unfortunately Shaw holds the cards and like most ruling bodies acknowledging mistakes at the micro level cannot be allowed so to prevent de-stabilizing a ecosystem and plunging it into chaos through diminished consumer confidence. As such I don't foresee a happy outcome unless your service is sorted on a delivery basis, such as implementing an appealing package at the middle tier price points for users not enticed by a thrill of the first user/keeping up with the jones/carnival mark mindset that you're banking on with your fastest Internet promotion, or permanently fixed statistics tracking.
Shaw is without a doubt the best Canadian ISP, they haven't betrayed their customers privacy, they maybe the last or second to last to offer their own usenet server, but they've failed spectacularly at delivering packages to all kinds. |
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 | said by eject:As for the egregious and maybe criminal stat padding, I will play it by ear... My experience differs from yours. When I was graphing my routers traffic using Cacti to SNMP the routers interfaces, I found that Shaw was slightly under-reporting usage. Not over-reporting. I'll fire it back up and have another look. I remember at the time other users also reporting under-reporting by the Shaw bandwidth usage page. |
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 | Your comment only solidifies my stance on their inability to track, you're just on the other side of the spectrum thanks to their ineptitude like I was prior to my courtesy call. Many experience that until you're on their radar, then you'll find tremendous stat bloating which is why I call into question the laid back attitude most customers have grown accustom only to find out this year they'll be charged extra by being bumped into new packages off the back of shoddy tracking, hence the soft cap reference. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 | Yours is the first I have also seen which indicates it over-reporting. I have only seen it under-report.
The information is not being used for anything at this point, if they start using that data for billing, or anything else, then I would be concerned about how accurate it is.
Right now, it is only used for you to look at it... Bandwidth team usually looks for the top users on a busy node. -- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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 | I'll definitely be providing detailed information by the end of my next billing cycle for posterity since this so called irrelevant and highly inaccurate information is Shaw's only point of reference for reprimanding and inevitable plan bumping. I was more then pleased to operate from an ignorance is bliss stand point prior to my outing and I don't mean to hinder others taking advantage but it seems like a good time to open a dialogue on the topic. |
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 Shaw_AlexOfficial Shaw Rep join:2010-12-16 kudos:1 | Hi Eject,
What services are you using to monitor your home network traffic? Is it installed on your router or PC?
Would you be able to send me a screen shot of your findings? I'd like to compare it with our reports and with the help of our Network Analysts find out where the differences are coming from.
If you could PM me with that information along with your account number, i'd be happy to look into it ASAP.
Cheers, |
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 capdjqRIP my friendPremium join:2000-11-01 Coastie 1 edit | I want to upgrade my Internet from High Speed 25 to Broadband 50. Currently I'm using a Motrola Surfboard Modem 5100 which has given excellent service. Do I have to change my modem? Thanks. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 | Yes, the fastest plan that the SB51xx series modems would work on is the 25 mpbs internet.
50 and faster require a different modem. -- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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 capdjqRIP my friendPremium join:2000-11-01 Coastie | Thanks. What type of modem does Shaw use for Broadband 50? I read some horror stories about these new modems. Are they true? |
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 stolen join:2004-04-12 Calgary, AB kudos:2 | All the horror stories I've heard have been about when they're configured as a router/wi-fi gateway. I've had my DPC3825 in bridge mode for quite some time and have had one problem with it (had to reset it once). |
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 capdjqRIP my friendPremium join:2000-11-01 Coastie | Thanks. Never had a problem with my modem for years so that's the only reason I'm being reluctant to change. 
The DPC 3825 sure has some poor reviews on Amazon.
»www.amazon.com/Cisco-DPC3825-Wir···08C4HDQA |
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| reply to adiabatic said by adiabatic:Interesting. Roughly when did that happen? I'm in View Royal near the hospital and BB100 is still 5 Mbps up. The area of Gordon Head we're in, about 8 blocks from UVic, was finished in spring of last year. -- Anon filter enabled. Register an account if you want to be taken seriously. |
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 kevinds join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB kudos:1 | reply to capdjq Bridge it, the Cisco is good as a good modem...
The ISP can make whatever changes they want to it as well, not all of them are good... -- Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel. |
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| reply to capdjq That's because its an all in one device. The Cisco is a pretty good modem, but its router features kind of suck. If you get shaw to put the router in Bridge mode, you can connect your own router to it. Which is awesome.
The Cisco when run in Bridge mode is an excellent modem. It's a bit lacking if you run it as an all in once device. |
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Request For an update on Nelson, BC saturation problems. "We estimate this new connection will be available as early as mid December 2012, and worst case scenario by mid February. Ill be sure to provide some updates as we enter December on how things are coming along." by Shaw_Alex, 2012-11-05 12:52:05. No update yet?
ALSO: I hadda tech @ my home today and HE said that the finish date for upgrades in Nelson has been pushed back to EARLY MARCH? can someone confirm this? Cuz it WAS early Jan. when I signed up, then it was early Feb., then I was TOLD A DATE!!! Of Feb 16th, at the LATEST!! Now it seems I was lied to? Please clarify. cuz rite now (and since i signed up 2 months ago!) I'm VERY lucky if i get more than 5Mbps, even @ 3AM!!! Speedtest.net said .87Mbps down, .49Mbps up @3am this morning? with a 26ms ping? |
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 | When will it get fixed? Every day for the last month and a half my Internet goes down for a few hours between 11am to 2pm I called Shaw they said it was congestion and that they are working on it, how much longer will this take. I'm in NE calgary. Oh and how does it get congested at that time I thought peek time was at like 7pm to 10pm? |
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