Topic 'GIF Animations' in forum 'Forum Feature Requests' - dslreports.com

Re: GIF Animations

Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:15:41 EDT

ProtusMose posted : I would ask people to stop making 800x600 animated gifs. Seriously. You don't need to do that.

Re: GIF Animations

Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:31:38 EDT

mod_wastrel posted : Corollary to the OP request question: does this mean you want [large] animated GIFs to never be re-sized (thumbnailed, which happens to all large images of other types--so, blow those margins) or that they should be processed so as to reduce each frame and repackaged as still animated but smaller (probably not feasible)?
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Re: GIF Animations

Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:18:54 EDT

Dustyn posted : *SIGN*

Re: GIF Animations

Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:54:49 EDT

AB posted :

said by Mele20:

Where did you get the idea that I don't like gifs? I like them. I don't like animated gifs though.

I thought it was an obvious given that I was referring to animated .gifs, and that you'd be capable of making that simple leap. Looks like I was wrong.

So here, let me clear it up for you:

I like animated gifs-- that is, animated gifs. I don't care about them in avatars, but when the funny ones get posted, as they sometimes do, I want to see them. I even download and keep the ones I like-- that is, the animated gifs.

As far as the O.P.'s suggestion goes-- I think the site here handles animated gifs-- that is, animated gifs-- just fine as is. Therefore, *object*.

HTH.

Re: GIF Animations

Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:32:23 EDT

Koil posted : Oh brother...

said by Mele20:

The Proxomitron is primarily a SECURITY application. I use an OUTSTANDING config set from Sidki which was released to public Proxo in Oct 2010. How is that 1995? I think you should educate yourself about something before ignorantly sounding off and making yourself look stupid. (I also have several filters written in the PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. How is that 1995)? You obviously haven't the vaguest understanding of the Proxomitron, how EXTREMELY POWERFUL it is or what it is capable of doing. :(

Maybe you should pay attention to the wording I used. I said it was designed for Windows 95. From the Wiki article about the app, "Proxomitron, the Universal Web Filter, is a filtering web proxy written by Scott R. Lemmon. This program was originally designed to run under Windows 95."

Maybe you should pay attention to people's posts before calling them stupid.

said by Mele20:

Further, you might try to read more carefully. I stated "ALL browsers allow you to disable gif animation." So, why did you say:

"Pretty sure that browser technology can handle most of what you're looking for these days."

I don't think you read my post! :uhh:

Then why bring Proximotronilator up at all??

said by Mele20:

I don't want to see the web deteriorate as you and the OP obviously do. Thus, I have every right to voice my opinion. Further, if you think I was "verbose" that suggests additional evidence of your reading comprehension/lack of attention problem which is probably why excessive gif animation appeals to you and the OP.

In the context of this forum, where either *sign* or *object* is the usual response, I think we can safely call your response "verbose", "wordy", maybe even "overly texty"...whatever.

And you're right...I'm a card holding member of the "Collection of Internet Users Who Wish To Deteriorate The Internet Through Massive GIF Usage" or CIUWWTDTITMGU, for short, or non-verbose.
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Re: GIF Animations

Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:20:03 EDT

Grail Knight posted :

quote:
It is not a small number who alter gif animation configuration in browsers.

How exactly do you know the number of users that disable .gif animation in their web browser?? :uhh:

Re: GIF Animations

Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:59:58 EDT

Mele20 posted : Where did you get the idea that I don't like gifs? I like them. I don't like animated gifs though. The default for 'image.animation_mode' is not to "allow gifs to display" rather it is to "allow ANIMATED gifs to display". If you turn off the animation that doesn't mean the gif does not display which is what is sounds like you think happens. The gif is just displayed without the animation. Fx also allows you to keep gif animation but limit the number of loops to one, two, etc. We've had several discussions at this site about it over the years and most posters reported that they don't completely turn off gif animation but that they limit it to one or two loops. It is not a small number who alter gif animation configuration in browsers.

Steve Jobs sure believes in NOT allowing Apple users to have Safari operate as they might like. Fx and Opera are unusual as they both believe the user should be able to SOME EXTENT alter their browsers...Fx more so than Opera. Microsoft and Google don't share this opinion that Mozilla and Opera, to a lesser extent, have.
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Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:57:25 EDT

AB posted :

said by Mele20:

ALL browsers allow you to disable gif animation. If it is so great and so extremely desired on web sites then why do the browsers go to great lengths to allow you to disable it entirely, or allow only one loop, etc?

I wonder why Firefox went to "great lengths" to have all those hundreds of other configurations available for the user to change if so desired, too?
Could it be that not everyone wants their browser to operate in the exact same way?

The default for 'image.animation_mode' is 'normal'. That is, to allow gifs to display. I'd imagine it's a very small handful of people who feel any need to alter that setting from the default.

I like gifs. I don't care about them in avatars, but when the funny ones get posted, as they sometimes do, I want to see them. I even download and keep the ones I like.

Not everyone wants a browser or a website or the Internet to work only the way you want it to, Mele.
Yet you always seem to refuse to understand that.

As far as the O.P.'s suggestion goes-- I think the site here handles gifs just fine as is. Therefore, *object*.

Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:32:49 EDT

vaxvms posted :

said by Mele20:

I don't want to see the web deteriorate

Please elaborate on the meaning of "deteriorate" in this context.

Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:58:49 EDT

Mele20 posted : The Proxomitron is primarily a SECURITY application. I use an OUTSTANDING config set from Sidki which was released to public Proxo in Oct 2010. How is that 1995? I think you should educate yourself about something before ignorantly sounding off and making yourself look stupid. (I also have several filters written in the PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. How is that 1995)? You obviously haven't the vaguest understanding of the Proxomitron, how EXTREMELY POWERFUL it is or what it is capable of doing. :(

Further, you might try to read more carefully. I stated "ALL browsers allow you to disable gif animation." So, why did you say:

"Pretty sure that browser technology can handle most of what you're looking for these days."

I don't think you read my post! :uhh:

I don't want to see the web deteriorate as you and the OP obviously do. Thus, I have every right to voice my opinion. Further, if you think I was "verbose" that suggests additional evidence of your reading comprehension/lack of attention problem which is probably why excessive gif animation appeals to you and the OP.
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Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:47:45 EDT

mod_wastrel posted :

said by Koil:

Pretty sure that browser technology can handle most of what you're looking for these days.

Firefox does anyway--at least it makes what I do easier: I recently decided to "turn off" all avatars for BBR, not because they're "annoying" (which some are), but because some of the animated ones can cause my CPU utilization to spike up by 30% (and that's just for one avatar of this type, probably because it has a "gazillion" frames)--and while I don't have a super fast processor, I wouldn't call it slow either; but I still wanted to be able to see an avatar on an 'as needed' basis (memory jog), so I just hide them except on hover using CSS--it's there, and I can see it if/when I want to, but it doesn't spike my CPU unnecessarily (and, so far, none of the animated GIFs that I've come across that aren't avatars have been very CPU-intensive). I've done similar for other forums which do allow those annoying "movie strip" avatars of somewhat large-ish sizes (and, boy, are they annoying).
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Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:25 EDT

Koil posted : How many add-ons do you run to stop certain aspects of the net?

Proxomitron was designed to run under Windows 95?? Wow.

Pretty sure that browser technology can handle most of what you're looking for these days.

I wouldn't normally even ask, but since you gave such a verbose response, I have to agree with dbmaven and ask, why do you care? It affects you not one iota.
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Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:18:38 EDT

Mele20 posted : Yep. In Fx about:config set to:

image.animation_mode;none

You don't need the Proxomitron to stop that god awful animation. It is soooo childish! And extremely irritating and distracting.

ALL browsers allow you to disable gif animation. If it is so great and so extremely desired on web sites then why do the browsers go to great lengths to allow you to disable it entirely, or allow only one loop, etc?
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Re: GIF Animations

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:04:38 EDT

AVD posted : my phone does not animate any gifs. Anyway, this site has a text only version and there are techniques for stripping down webpages so they load faster on handheld / low bandwidth devices.
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Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:11:20 EDT

vaxvms posted :

said by thegeek:

if you're still on dialup and animated gifs take forever to load then i'd say it's time to get with the 21st century.

I know you're not going to believe me but there are still places where dial up is the only option.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:46:45 EDT

fourboxers posted : Previous request »Size increase for animated gifs in post....

object

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:32:26 EDT

mod_wastrel posted : I was under the impression that large GIFs (wider than 600px) are not animated because they're large--and, therefore, thumb-nailed (as is done with other large images), not because they're animated GIFs. It might be useful, though, for the site to add a watermark/overlay/legend to the JPGs ("click to animate" or something) to indicate that the larger image isn't merely larger but also animated.
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Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:09:49 EDT

state posted : Let's not turn this into a carrier or hardware debate.. I'm simply pointing out caveats of the original suggestion.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:05:54 EDT

thegeek posted : I visit the site from my HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon quite frequently. And I'm not in an LTE area so it's only on 3G. I have no problems with site load times even on a page full of images. As with the people still on dialup, maybe those mobile users who experience issues should get with the times and get a newer device and more reliable carrier.

This could easily be argued the other way. Maybe since there are apparently so many dialup users and mobile users with inferior hardware/carrier we should just outlaw posting images completely so that it doesn't degrade their experience.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:49:43 EDT

state posted :

said by thegeek:

if you're still on dialup and animated gifs take forever to load then i'd say it's time to get with the 21st century.

Let us not forget about our nomadic members, who may use mobile devices and 3G to visit the site. Page full of animated images can tax the hardware and connection.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:34:30 EDT

thegeek posted : sign

it's a pain in the ass to have to click an image to see it animated. and unless someone says the image they posted in an animated gif then most people will likely miss that it is animated.

this is the only site i know that doesn't have gifs animate as posted. it shouldnt be a bandwidth issue anymore. if you're still on dialup and animated gifs take forever to load then i'd say it's time to get with the 21st century.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:28:20 EDT

state posted : Object.

Re: GIF Animations

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:39:24 EDT

Grail Knight posted : *Object*

Re: GIF Animations

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:52:44 EDT

dbmaven posted : Just out of curiosity here - if you're (still) using Proxo to customize the website experience - and you have all animations "off" - why do you care?

Not suggesting you're not entitled to voice your opinion - but it seems that you've got "no dog in this hunt" ?
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Re: GIF Animations

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:21:50 EDT

Mele20 posted : Eegads, no! Of course, I haven't seen avatars here ever since the positioning was changed years ago as they are not properly centered anymore and that bugged me, and was distracting, so I used I See People to turn off avatars and got rid of mine also at that time.

I have ALL gif animation PERMANENTLY TURNED OFF on ALL sites through the Proxomitron. Animation can trigger migraines and is extremely distracting and irritating. If I do wish (and rarely is this the case) to see animated gifs I can easily uncheck that setting in Proxo and see the animation and then recheck it.

*Object*
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GIF Animations

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:36:19 EDT

dvd536 posted : Animate ALL gifs, not just the little ones.