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jfmezei
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reply to mlerner

Re: Canadian ISP Summit

The summit has begun. Bell Kool Aid at full force. Even Bill Sandiford has changed his badge lanyard to from an Arin one to a Bell Canada one.

And now, Tom Little will speak. He used to be head of wholesale and has been promoted higher up. He is to present how great a relationship Bell wants with ISP.

Disclaimer: Bell canada paid for the drinks at the bar last night so we all drank the Kool Aid. Great PR move from Bell. And Bell als gave us an incredible kit with all sorts of geek stuff (USB adaptors, USB hub, mini mouse, card readers etc. Bell is a great company and is working hard to improve its relationship with ISPs.

BTW, Wholesale is a big part of Bell Canada in terms of profits.

jfmezei
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Tom Little of Bell Canada
Growth for Bell is leveling off, so it needs the help of ISPs to get customers back from cable. Admits that the existing non-UBB tariff from Rogers has been very succesfull at moving customers from DSL to Cable (a loss for Bell).


mlerner
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haha so now Bell admits they are in trouble. Nothing like getting a taste of their own mistakes.



diskace
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said by mlerner:

haha so now Bell admits they are in trouble. Nothing like getting a taste of their own mistakes.

Well tom little has never been against indie ISP as far as i know. He his the wholesale director and try to fight against the legal/finance/retail (mirko) gang.
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Electronic Box Inc. - Jean-Philippe Béïque

HeadSpinning
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reply to jfmezei

said by jfmezei:

Even Bill Sandiford has changed his badge lanyard to from an Arin one to a Bell Canada one..

They got to Bill too? Uh oh....
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dillyhammer
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said by HeadSpinning:

They got to Bill too? Uh oh....

LOL. Bill Sandiford, President of Telnet Communications, President of CNOC, Member of ARIN Advisory Council, changing his Arin lanyard to B#ell lanyard.

That's rich.

Photo please.

Mike
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AVP... UBB... which poop stinks less?


andyb
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said by dillyhammer:

said by HeadSpinning:

They got to Bill too? Uh oh....

LOL. Bill Sandiford, President of Telnet Communications, President of CNOC, Member of ARIN Advisory Council, changing his Arin lanyard to B#ell lanyard.

That's rich.

Photo please.

Mike

Sure.Pic from twitter



JunjiHiroma
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join:2008-03-18

reply to HeadSpinning

said by HeadSpinning:

said by jfmezei:

Even Bill Sandiford has changed his badge lanyard to from an Arin one to a Bell Canada one..

They got to Bill too? Uh oh....

Yep,ALL will fall to the BELL side. *Darth Bibic Grin*

xcimo

join:2007-11-21
Gatineau, QC

reply to pstewart
We're doomed..



JunjiHiroma
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join:2008-03-18

said by xcimo:

We're doomed..

Pay for Gas Usage
Pay For Water Usage
Pay For Hydro Usage And Smart Meters
Pay For Oil Usage
NOW add Internet Usage to that list.

Pay Pay Pay,that's what we always do.

MaynardKrebs
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reply to jfmezei

said by jfmezei:

And now, Tom Little will speak. He used to be head of wholesale and has been promoted higher up. He is to present how great a relationship Bell wants with ISP.

I wanna know....did Dear Leader George Cope Most Benevolent & Divine french-kiss each indie ISP to show them the love Bell has for them?


mlerner
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reply to pstewart
A little birdie told Peter Nowak that the decision is highly against Bell but that's all he has said.


xcimo

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said by mlerner:

A little birdie told Peter Nowak that the decision is highly against Bell but that's all he has said.

Well, let's see, I got beer in the fridge ready at home.

HeadSpinning
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reply to mlerner

said by mlerner:

A little birdie told Peter Nowak that the decision is highly against Bell but that's all he has said.

If that is the case, the CRTC better have some very good arguments in the decision otherwise Bell will appeal.
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Guspaz
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reply to pstewart
I'm more interested in "very against videotron" than "very against bell". There's a reason why TekSavvy will soon have 70 gigabit of connectivity with Rogers, but until recently had only 300 megabit of connectivity with Videotron. Yes, there's a population difference, and yes, there's a popularity difference, but really it's the high prices and low caps for TPIA in Quebec that mean the vast majority of TSI's customers in Quebec are on DSL, not cable.
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grunze510

join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
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said by Guspaz:

I'm more interested in "very against videotron" than "very against bell". There's a reason why TekSavvy will soon have 70 gigabit of connectivity with Rogers, but until recently had only 300 megabit of connectivity with Videotron. Yes, there's a population difference, and yes, there's a popularity difference, but really it's the high prices and low caps for TPIA in Quebec that mean the vast majority of TSI's customers in Quebec are on DSL, not cable.

Yup. Every time B#ell files something absolutely insane (like tarriffs with monthly rates that are about $1 less than retail, and $190 installation fees), Videotron then files their own tariff that tops it.


mlerner
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reply to HeadSpinning

said by HeadSpinning:

said by mlerner:

A little birdie told Peter Nowak that the decision is highly against Bell but that's all he has said.

If that is the case, the CRTC better have some very good arguments in the decision otherwise Bell will appeal.

In either case there will likely be an appeal since neither side can agree on a decision anyways.

xcimo

join:2007-11-21
Gatineau, QC
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·ELECTRONICBOX
·voip.ms

said by mlerner:

said by HeadSpinning:

said by mlerner:

A little birdie told Peter Nowak that the decision is highly against Bell but that's all he has said.

If that is the case, the CRTC better have some very good arguments in the decision otherwise Bell will appeal.

In either case there will likely be an appeal since neither side can agree on a decision anyways.

In the event of an appeal, who gets to accept, reject and make a decision?


ekster
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reply to Guspaz
Yeah, if there will be anything half decent for a fair price on cable, I'm jumping ship in seconds. Getting tired of paying dry-loop, being moved of a remote, etc. And considering how well Videotron manages their network and how quickly they upgraded for TSI, I see only good things.


jfmezei
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reply to grunze510
Spent some time playing golf outside the meeting room.

Rubber will hit the road at 16:00 when folks like Bibic run to their coprate offices to meet with the CEO to decide how to handle the result of the decision.

And Mr Guspaz is correct. Videotron, being the only one to have implemented retail UBB for its wholeasale is the one will will be most affected by the decision.

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