 nascar
join:2000-02-28
Verona, NJ
kudos:2 | reply to brownk
Re: [HD] FCC Rules on Verizon Access to MSG HD They better have room. MSG's HD means plenty of happy current and future FiOS customers. |
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 icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ | reply to brownk
I remember someone saying that on each VHO FiOS does reserve QAM space for the Regional Sports Networks.
It should be noted that there is actually 4 feeds.
MSG, MSG2, MSG+ and MSG +2.
When we eventually get MSG HD and MSG + HD will MSG 2 HD and MSG + 2 HD be included? |
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 bohratomJersey Shore will rise again
join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ | said by icemannyr1:I remember someone saying that on each VHO FiOS does reserve QAM space for the Regional Sports Networks.
It should be noted that there is actually 4 feeds.
MSG, MSG2, MSG+ and MSG +2.
When we eventually get MSG HD and MSG + HD will MSG 2 HD and MSG + 2 HD be included?
I'd bet my left nut that Verizon has room for the 4 MSG HD feeds. They are not that stupid.  |
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tnsprin
join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL
kudos:1 | reply to skohly
Re: [HD] FCC Rules on Verizon Access to MSG HD said by skohly:said by FIOSHD:said by tnsprin:Unfortunately a stay is almost automatic if CV files. Hopefully the courts then reject the cases. But that is not as likely, and so the delays will continue while the courts schedules and hears arguments.
I'm not so sure about a stay being automatic. For a stay to be automatic CV would have to demonstrate that handing over MSG HD would cause them some sort of irreperable harm...the problem with that is making that argument would fly in the face of their primary argument that they are not gaining a competitive advantage. Of course, I'm no lawyer and rooting very hard for VZ in this fight so take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm feeling about 60/40 we get it in the 30 days.....although who wants to bet that the signal is crap and we encounter all sorts of mysterious issues with the feed? CV will do ANYTHING. Makes sense on all points Temporary stays are almost always automatically granted if they don't immediately reject the case. The courts often need a little time to decide if thetr are any grounds to hear an appeal based on the filing. Of course the stays end if they later reject hearing the appeal. |
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The overflow HD games are only on Cablevision. They are not made available to anyone else and I wouldn't count on them being made available. They are not full time channels. |
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join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | said by robjlevin:The overflow HD games are only on Cablevision. They are not made available to anyone else and I wouldn't count on them being made available. They are not full time channels.
Verizon already carries the SD overflow channels. When nothing extra is on they just simulcast the regular channels. Don't know what they would do with HD |
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| said by nyranger74:There is no MSG2 HD or MSG+2 HD
Pretty sure there is... »www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=197174#14 |
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icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ
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You are correct that there is no full time MSG2 and MSG+2 in HD but Cablevision does have two channels called iO Sports and iO Sports2 that do show the games from MSG2 and MSG+ 2 in HD. |
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| I had cablevision for years, and MSG2 and 2+ were never in HD!! |
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matcarlPremium
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | said by nyranger74:I had cablevision for years, and MSG2 and 2+ were never in HD!!
I believe they have one HD overflow sports channel now. |
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| said by matcarl:said by nyranger74:I had cablevision for years, and MSG2 and 2+ were never in HD!!
I believe they have one HD overflow sports channel now. »www.cablevision.com/thegame
That link has always had the overflow schedule with pdf.
»www.optimum.net/pv_obj_cache/pv_···11_1.pdf |
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Comcast NJ only had MSG and MSG+ HD. |
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said by nyranger74:I had cablevision for years, and MSG2 and 2+ were never in HD!!
They were added last season. |
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JPLPremium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:2 | reply to tnsprin
said by tnsprin:Temporary stays are almost always automatically granted if they don't immediately reject the case. The courts often need a little time to decide if thetr are any grounds to hear an appeal based on the filing. Of course the stays end if they later reject hearing the appeal.
I'm sorry but this simply makes no sense. A stay based on what? Courts grant stays pending a trial/hearing. There has already been a hearing on this... two of them. CV sued the FCC saying they didn't have the authority to close the loophole. The court disagreed with CV. So they appealed. The appeals court upheld the lower court ruling. Unless CV petitions the supreme court to step in, there simply is no basis for a stay - temporary or otherwise. A stay would only be granted as a condition for future court hearings. That's not going to happen here. Yes, CV could drag its feet (although I doubt it), but from a legal perspective, this is over. CV sued, and they lost. There simply is no basis for a stay. |
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| CV can sue based on the ownership interpretation which hasn't been addressed, since CV and MSG are now separate company's, CV can take this legal path to knock off another few years.
At the longest, we will find out CV's legal strategy in a few weeks. CV has literally Billions to spend making this to never happen, never, ever underestimate a determined company with pockets this deep. |
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| Attribution rules upheld in court that the FCC uses & used in this case to say MSG and Cablevision are owned by the same entity. I think the game is over, but you can hold your stance that more lawsuits are upcoming.
»transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable···016.html |
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 nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:10
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said by guppy_fish:CV can sue based on the ownership interpretation which hasn't been addressed, since CV and MSG are now separate company's, CV can take this legal path to knock off another few years.
At the longest, we will find out CV's legal strategy in a few weeks. CV has literally Billions to spend making this to never happen, never, ever underestimate a determined company with pockets this deep.
The FCC doesn't care who owns the programming - it doesn't matter if MSG has nothing to do with CV. The bottom line is the FCC ruled that MSG HD has to be made available to AT&T and Verizon based on the harmful competition ruling. You are so stuck on this ownership argument.....And since you are stuck on this ownership argument, why is the only MSG "company" responding to the FCC's decision Cablevision? MSG Networks is eerily quiet...If they were the only company who owns MSG, shouldn't they be commenting on a negative ruling?....hmmmm...Doesn't past the smell test. |
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said by guppy_fish:CV can sue based on the ownership interpretation which hasn't been addressed, since CV and MSG are now separate company's, CV can take this legal path to knock off another few years.
If, as you say, CVC doesn't own MSG then why are they even involved in all of this? The fact is, this charade is going to come to an end sooner or later, but I do agree the Dolans will go down fighting.
But to say they have billions to spend on legal costs is a bit of stretch. |
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