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m8trix

join:2003-12-24
Phoenix, AZ
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makes no sense

so wait cablevision cant restrict a channel they own but Directv can have exclusive rights to NFL ticket..makes no sense


45612019

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

Apples and oranges.



Greg2600

join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ

reply to m8trix

said by m8trix:

so wait cablevision cant restrict a channel they own but Directv can have exclusive rights to NFL ticket..makes no sense

DirecTV doesn't own NFL Sunday Ticket, that comes from the NFL, who are not a cable company.


nycdave
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join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
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said by m8trix:

so wait cablevision cant restrict a channel they own but Directv can have exclusive rights to NFL ticket..makes no sense

Sunday Ticket was open to anyone who wanted to bid on it. MSG-HD is restricted to those who don't compete directly with Cablevision, like Verizon and AT&T....

robjlevin

join:2002-10-30
Millington, NJ

and DirecTV?



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

reply to Greg2600

said by Greg2600:

said by m8trix:

so wait cablevision cant restrict a channel they own but Directv can have exclusive rights to NFL ticket..makes no sense

DirecTV doesn't own NFL Sunday Ticket, that comes from the NFL, who are not a cable company.

And that may be the endgame here. Don't count out the Dolans yet.


espaeth
Digital Plumber
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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said by robjlevin:

and DirecTV?

DirecTV and MSG is an odd story.

Rainbow Media / MSG Networks started a satellite company in 2003 under the name of Voom. The venture ultimately failed to be self-sustaining and shut down operations in 2005, but Dish Network bailed them out by purchasing their satellite asset (61.5WL orbital) and agreeing to purchase broadcast rights for the channels. This was back in the time when only a handful of networks were in HD, so adding over a dozen HD channels with original programming was a big deal.

Fast forward to 2007 where most channels were broadcasting in HD. People with HD TVs were far less inclined to watch original programming about scubadiving for treasure just because it was in HD when they could now watch their normal programming in HD after the majority of the channels had upgraded. Dish network started talks in late 2007 about ending the partnership with Rainbow Media and discontinuing the Voom channel subscription. In response, Rainbow Media / MSG tried to force Dish's hand and signed a deal to bring MSG(HD) and MSG+(HD) to DirecTV in December of 2007. The general idea was that the competitive advantage it would give DirecTV in the massive New York DMA would be enough to make Dish cave and continue to carry Voom so they could gain access to the HD broadcast rights for MSG/MSG+ as well. Instead, Dish proceeded to remove all of the Voom programming in May of 2008 and end the contract. This went even further and MSG/MSG+ networks were pulled completely from Dish last year.

The MSG / DirecTV relationship hasn't been without conflicts -- it wasn't really a deal MSG wanted to make in the first place. In the 2009-2010 season, MSG made DirecTV pull the HD feeds from the NHL Center Ice and NBA League pass offerings, citing that the contract they signed only allowed for broadcast of the channel within the NY DMA. Access to the HD feeds was later instated after the sports leagues (NBA / NHL), as full legal owners of the game content, engaged in private discussions that likely involved threats of ending the broadcast rights with MSG networks.


zas

@cox.net

reply to Greg2600
what about directv's exclusive channel "the 101"



jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA

reply to robjlevin
Not to mention that DirecTV has 20 million subscribers where Verizon and Cablevision have maybe 25% of that number.


robjlevin

join:2002-10-30
Millington, NJ

reply to zas
Yes, it's exclusive, MSG is not. BTW, the name's been changed to The Audience Network.


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