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mod_wastrel
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Well, like they said, "It's a $20 package." ...so I guess we can expect it'll be $20 for non-Dish subs, if not more [if it lasts that long]. If Amazon buys Netflix, then everyone who left Netflix due to annoyance might rush to get Amazon's "triple-play": the Netflix catalog [plus more from Amazon], the pay-per-view of On Demand, and purchasing physical discs ...one-stop shopping.
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said by mod_wastrel:

Well, like they said, "It's a $20 package." ...so I guess we can expect it'll be $20 for non-Dish subs, if not more

In other words MORE than what Netflix charges.

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That's right [I think $20 is still more than $10]. (I was quoting them as confirmation of your statement. They were even taking their numbers from Netflix pricing.)

tstolze
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said by 88615298:

said by mod_wastrel:

Well, like they said, "It's a $20 package." ...so I guess we can expect it'll be $20 for non-Dish subs, if not more

In other words MORE than what Netflix charges.

This will include Bluray at no additional cost, games and unlimited in store exchanges.
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said by tstolze:

said by 88615298:

said by mod_wastrel:

Well, like they said, "It's a $20 package." ...so I guess we can expect it'll be $20 for non-Dish subs, if not more

In other words MORE than what Netflix charges.

This will include Bluray at no additional cost, games and unlimited in store exchanges.

OK

Blockbuster with blu-ray included = $10
Netflix DVD only $8 + blu-ray add-on $2 more = $10.

$10 = $10

Unlimited store exchanges? Great I'll just drive 65 miles to the nearest Blockbuster.

openupshop
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Get your game right.

Netflix is $7.99 add BluRay for $2.00 more=$9.99 with a No streaming option.

Blockbuster $9.99 includes streaming, BluRay, and games.

Apparently Netflix lost this battle.

dvd536
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said by openupshop:

Get your game right.

Netflix is $7.99 add BluRay for $2.00 more=$9.99 with a No streaming option.

Blockbuster $9.99 includes streaming, BluRay, and games.

Apparently Netflix lost this battle.

But does BB have them same size library as netflix?

mod_wastrel
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BB < 5,000; Netflix > 30,000. (details from Cnet articles)

Discs about the same (100,000). (That's BB vs. [now] Qwikster.)

Of course, now there's going to be the Dish + BB "bundle" for, what?, $40/mo? (Dish subs will be able to stream about 30,000 titles, maybe with a few newer ones before Netflix(?), but it'll cost.)

For now, it's still Netflix with more for less (but the quantity vs. quality is undetermined). I don't think it's really worth comparing right now, though; everything could change in the next 3 months (with BB [plans to open up to non-Dish subs anytime soon?], with Amazon [will they/won't they buy Netflix?]). Personally, I'm just going to wait 'n' see; there's plenty of good stuff on Netflix that I haven't seen yet ('cause I've watched virtually nothing over the past 7 years or so other than a few big "blockbuster" hits [movies] and even less TV). It's only $8/mo for several hours of viewing per day, so... it's a bargain.

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said by mod_wastrel:

BB < 5,000; Netflix > 30,000. (details from Cnet articles)

30,000? Is that counting every TV episode as a different item? I can't imagine that the number is that high, and definitely not if you cut out all the worthless B- and C-list movies that were direct to $5-discount-bin DVD.

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I don't know for sure, but I think it's titles (so, not episodes**). I think it's fairly close to that; I seem to remember it being somewhere around 20,000+ some time ago (though, of course, it could have been a typo--that's a number attributed by Dish, too). Of course, you can't really cut out the "crap" (which they both have [and, anyway, "one man's crap is another's prize"]). In any event, I'm pretty sure the Netflix catalog is at least several times larger than BB's. (I don't really think 20,000 is all that many. I have a small disc library of my own, but it's several hundred titles. I certainly don't have even a tenth of what's out there, or even a hundredth.)

Edit: **thinking about it for TV shows--I can see how each season might be counted as a separate "title" (not saying Netflix does, but some cataloging sites, for instance, do that).

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said by mod_wastrel:

(..snip..)
Edit: **thinking about it for TV shows--I can see how each season might be counted as a separate "title" (not saying Netflix does, but some cataloging sites, for instance, do that).

not to mention "split" seasons, especially true for anime, example.

D gray man, season 1 part 1
D gray man, season 1 part 2
D gray man, season 2 part 1
D gray man, season 2 part 2

those counted as 4? or 2? (they make you think thats all there is, but theres really 103 espisodes on those 2 seasons, but netflix only has half! one more thing i hate)

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Are the DVD box sets split like that? (It would make some sense to mirror streaming with DVD that way. On the other hand, some titles are just a bunch of episodes--InuYasha, Bleach.)

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Depends. Back when I was a blockbuster customer, they wouldn't carry Unrated or NC-17 movies. They tried to keep a wholesome family image.
I dunno if that changed or not. I know netflix carries unrated and NC-17 movies. It carries a lot of anime, foreign films as well.
I dunno what the modern blockbuster carried, last time I was a member was mid-90's.
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said by openupshop:

Get your game right.

Netflix is $7.99 add BluRay for $2.00 more=$9.99 with a No streaming option.

Blockbuster $9.99 includes streaming, BluRay, and games.

Apparently Netflix lost this battle.


Only $10 for DISH subcribers. Or did you not read the article?

When available to public will NOT be $10.

cdru
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said by Snakeoil:

Depends. Back when I was a blockbuster customer, they wouldn't carry Unrated or NC-17 movies. They tried to keep a wholesome family image.

It always cracked me up when I worked there in college that they wouldn't carry the unrated director's cut of say Eurotrip because it shows a little extra boobs, but they will carry the much more graphics Skinimax softcore porn.
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said by tstolze:

This will include Bluray at no additional cost, games and unlimited in store exchanges.

That's all fine and well.. but who the hell wants more physical media in the internet age?

This is nice for people stuck with yesteryears technology. but the future is streaming.

Just think about it for a minute, and how stupid it is that you have to rely on physical media for the newest movies.

What Netflix and newer services like it should do, is get some sort of deal where your subscription includes a maximum of 2-4 "new" movie releases a week, to add to their other titles.

That way it wouldn't be any different from "one blu-ray at a time"

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said by Kamus:

What Netflix and newer services like it should do, is get some sort of deal where your subscription includes a maximum of 2-4 "new" movie releases a week, to add to their other titles.

Can't get what the studios won't allow.
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said by 88615298:

said by openupshop:

Get your game right.

Netflix is $7.99 add BluRay for $2.00 more=$9.99 with a No streaming option.

Blockbuster $9.99 includes streaming, BluRay, and games.

Apparently Netflix lost this battle.


Only $10 for DISH subcribers. Or did you not read the article?

When available to public will NOT be $10.

You speak so definitively about the pricing. Do you actually have some evidence that the price would not be $10? Perhaps you could post a link. Or maybe you could state that this is YOUR opinion.
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said by Kamus:

said by tstolze:

This will include Bluray at no additional cost, games and unlimited in store exchanges.

That's all fine and well.. but who the hell wants more physical media in the internet age?

This is nice for people stuck with yesteryears technology. but the future is streaming.

Just think about it for a minute, and how stupid it is that you have to rely on physical media for the newest movies.

What Netflix and newer services like it should do, is get some sort of deal where your subscription includes a maximum of 2-4 "new" movie releases a week, to add to their other titles.

That way it wouldn't be any different from "one blu-ray at a time"

Right now streaming is yesteryears technology. The absolute best video and audio quality available today is on blu-ray.
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said by dr_jack:

said by 88615298:

said by openupshop:

Get your game right.

Netflix is $7.99 add BluRay for $2.00 more=$9.99 with a No streaming option.

Blockbuster $9.99 includes streaming, BluRay, and games.

Apparently Netflix lost this battle.


Only $10 for DISH subcribers. Or did you not read the article?

When available to public will NOT be $10.

You speak so definitively about the pricing. Do you actually have some evidence that the price would not be $10? Perhaps you could post a link. Or maybe you could state that this is YOUR opinion.

I'm not saying that he's right. But remember Blockbuster already charges $9.99 per month for "1 disc out" mail order service. Do you think that Dish will just throw in streaming for free?

I'm already a Dish subscriber with the Platinum package. That package, to me, is very well worth it. Throwing in the disc service is just a bonus. A bonus that will allow me to save $8.47 (including MI sales tax) per month by dropping Netflix/Qwikster by mail. I'll still keep Netflix streaming though. I'm one of those people who really enjoy watching the tv shows that I missed and nobody else comes close to what Netflix offers.

I feel bad for those who don't have a BBV store nearby. But we have one about a 1/2 mile away that will get business from us with the in-store exchanges.
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I've programmed with their developer API which lists all those titles (when it's working). In that "30,000", each TV episode, each "10 minute workout", each part of a compilation counts as a separate "title". That number also declines drastically when you remove the sub par video from the Starz offerings.
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