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rahvin112

join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
reply to cdru

Re: Could be worse.

said by cdru:

You're right. I would expect a datacenter's per GB pricing to be far cheaper. They don't have nearly the same buildout and physical plant costs.

That's because you don't know anything about datacenter pricing. Personally I don't know which is cheaper of even if either is cheaper. It would be foolish to assume that a data center is cheaper to run than a cable plant without the actual knowledge of the costs of each. I can personally see the power, cooling, rack and equipment costs of a data center far exceeding those of a cable plant. So once you factor in the additional maintenance, and capital expenditures on the cable plant the comparison could be anywhere in the world but I doubt you have a single idea what either costs just like me and drawing a conclusion is foolish.
said by cdru:

Since you obviously are so much wiser then everyone here, please educate us what a commercial gigabit or 10gbit internet connection would cost an ISP and we can go from there...

Leased line or owned? Location? Provider restrictions? Term commitment? SLA? You've got so many variables in there that no reasonable price could be provided. Not to mention actual speed of the connection is only one factor because much like the person you are responding to you assume that the bandwidth purchased is fixed and it's not. You might order a DS-3 and only put in an agreement for T1 bandwidth with a burst capacity 3 times that for a certain period of time or you could order the same DS-3 with constant bandwidth but restricted to a certain backbone for national travel. All options have costs and even site location can affect pricing. What bandwidth costs for one provider is entirely different for another.


cdru
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said by rahvin112:

That's because you don't know anything about datacenter pricing. Personally I don't know which is cheaper of even if either is cheaper. It would be foolish to assume that a data center is cheaper to run than a cable plant without the actual knowledge of the costs of each. I can personally see the power, cooling, rack and equipment costs of a data center far exceeding those of a cable plant. So once you factor in the additional maintenance, and capital expenditures on the cable plant the comparison could be anywhere in the world but I doubt you have a single idea what either costs just like me and drawing a conclusion is foolish.

The power and cooling component for a data center to provide the network connection is a drop in the bucket compared to what the servers require. A Extreme Network Black Diamond is ~5w per gigabit port and with 768 ports, it's just under 4000 watts. A fully loaded Dell M1000e enclosure is 3500+ watts and that's just 16 blades. The racks, power, cooling, etc of a datacenter is directly related to the servers that run in it. Any cost to run those should be attributed to the server rental or operation cost, not the bandwidth cost.

Regardless, I guess I wasn't trying to draw a direct comparison between the two environments. I'm guessing the network distribution physical plant within a datacenter is far less expensive then the cable plant for a cableco although I'm not exactly in a position to know.

I still stand behind what I originally said that $.20/GB is far more reasonable than $2 or $3 per GB that other ISPs charge. Even if I had to pay that for every GB that I downloaded, I bet most users would come out about the same as what they already pay. Last month I downloaded 300GB+, and my plan lists at $56 where my bandwidth charge would be $60.