Wimax 2?

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criggs join:2000-07-14 New York, NY Reviews: ·Sprint Mobile Br.. 1 edit	Wimax 2? Last Result: Download Speed: 12813 kbps (1601.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 1455 kbps (181.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Is Clearwire upgrading to Wimax 2? I thought there was to be no further rollout of their Wimax network, and that Clearwire was close to bankrupt? For the past several months, my download speed has between 6 and 7 megs a second. But this morning it's screaming. I even got 24 megs a second on one test, though my average has been what you see above, usually just below 13 megs a second. (I use Speakeasy, not Speedtest, because Speakeasy seems closer to the average result I get if I do speed tests with ALL of the sites offering them (Speakeasy, Speedtest, 2Wire, CNet, and so on)). In addition, I never get jitter speed below 10, until this morning, when, as you can see, it's hovering below 4. Any ideas? I thought the Sprint Wimax network was moribund and was to have no further improvements, no? Incidentally, what's the story with Sprint's LTE rollout? Will it mean I have to get all-new devices (I have an Overdrive and a 250U), or is it just a software upgrade? And how soon is the Sprint LTE rollout supposed to happen? And will it continue to be an unlimited package, like now?
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dib22 join:2002-01-27 Kansas City, MO kudos:2	said by criggs: Incidentally, what's the story with Sprint's LTE rollout? Will it mean I have to get all-new devices (I have an Overdrive and a 250U), or is it just a software upgrade? And how soon is the Sprint LTE rollout supposed to happen? And will it continue to be an unlimited package, like now? The understanding is that their new base-stations will support IS95/CDMA2000/EVDO/WIMAX/LTE. So you should not need to buy new equipment until many years down the road when the WiMax is shut down (if it is ever really shut down). As for plans, who knows... I suspect sprint will stick with the unlimited strategy until it doesn't gain them customers from the competition.
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iFail 5G join:2011-08-03	reply to criggs said by criggs: Last Result: Download Speed: 12813 kbps (1601.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 1455 kbps (181.9 KB/sec transfer rate) [att=1] Is Clearwire upgrading to Wimax 2? I thought there was to be no further rollout of their Wimax network, and that Clearwire was close to bankrupt? For the past several months, my download speed has between 6 and 7 megs a second. But this morning it's screaming. I even got 24 megs a second on one test, though my average has been what you see above, usually just below 13 megs a second. (I use Speakeasy, not Speedtest, because Speakeasy seems closer to the average result I get if I do speed tests with ALL of the sites offering them (Speakeasy, Speedtest, 2Wire, CNet, and so on). In addition, I never get jitter speed below 10, until this morning, when, as you can see, it's hovering below 4. Any ideas? I thought the Sprint Wimax network was moribund and was to have no further improvements, no? Incidentally, what's the story with Sprint's LTE rollout? Will it mean I have to get all-new devices (I have an Overdrive and a 250U), or is it just a software upgrade? And how soon is the Sprint LTE rollout supposed to happen? And will it continue to be an unlimited package, like now? They probably finally added backhaul. As of right now, coverage expansion has come to a halt. Sprint probably won't be partnering with Clear for this 4G rollout since Clear's rollout pace has been pathetic to say the least. To take advantage of LTE you will have to upgrade to a LTE capable device, if Sprint decides to upgrade to WiMax 2 then you still would need a new device.
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criggs join:2000-07-14 New York, NY Reviews: ·Sprint Mobile Br..	reply to dib22 said by dib22: So you should not need to buy new equipment until many years down the road when the WiMax is shut down (if it is ever really shut down). Looks like I wasn't clear, sorry. I meant to ask whether I need to upgrade, or, alternately, change devices, IF I WANT TO SWITCH TO LTE when Sprint implements it. I have no particular desire to remain in Wimax world if Sprint is offering LTE, since the latter is slightly superior, no? said by dib22: I suspect sprint will stick with the unlimited strategy until it doesn't gain them customers from the competition. I hope you're right.
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criggs join:2000-07-14 New York, NY Reviews: ·Sprint Mobile Br..	reply to iFail 5G said by iFail 5G: They probably finally added backhaul. As of right now, coverage expansion has come to a halt. Sprint probably won't be partnering with Clear for this 4G rollout since Clear's rollout pace has been pathetic to say the least. Yes, that's what I thought. Okay, so you're probably right; it's probably just an improvement in their backhaul. said by iFail 5G: To take advantage of LTE you will have to upgrade to a LTE capable device, if Sprint decides to upgrade to WiMax 2 then you still would need a new device. Thanks, yes, that was my question. However, I'm surprised that even if they just switch to Wimax 2 I will still need a new device. That's pretty lame that they were putting out Wimax devices that couldn't handle even an upgrade like that.
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dib22 join:2002-01-27 Kansas City, MO kudos:2	reply to criggs said by criggs: I meant to ask whether I need to upgrade, or, alternately, change devices, IF I WANT TO SWITCH TO LTE when Sprint implements it. New devices would be needed. said by criggs: I have no particular desire to remain in Wimax world if Sprint is offering LTE, since the latter is slightly superior, no? I am not sure that LTE is superior, but it is a different standard for sure. I doubt you will see much difference once they do have LTE up as they will be using the same backhaul... it will just be a different standard the tower is using to communicate with your devices. There might be some advantage to some people with their LTE that will sit on the 800mhz spectrum, as it should technically penetrate walls better.
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criggs join:2000-07-14 New York, NY Reviews: ·Sprint Mobile Br..	said by dib22: There might be some advantage to some people with their LTE that will sit on the 800mhz spectrum, as it should technically penetrate walls better. Here I'm afraid I have to plead ignorance. What frequencies will Sprint LTE use? Are you saying they might use more than one frequency, in other words, that they will use both 800 and somewhere else in the spectrum? Does this mean that every time one connects to Sprint LTE it will be a crap shoot whether one gets connected at 800 or at some other frequency? And that it is only the 800 frequency which might, potentially, offer superior connectivity/throughput to Wimax, other things being equal?
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dib22 join:2002-01-27 Kansas City, MO kudos:2 1 edit	said by criggs: Here I'm afraid I have to plead ignorance. What frequencies will Sprint LTE use? Are you saying they might use more than one frequency, in other words, that they will use both 800 and somewhere else in the spectrum? Does this mean that every time one connects to Sprint LTE it will be a crap shoot whether one gets connected at 800 or at some other frequency? And that it is only the 800 frequency which might, potentially, offer superior connectivity/throughput to Wimax, other things being equal? Well since its not built yet it is all guesswork... but... currently sprint runs its cdma on the 1900mhz band... they run their iden on the 800mhz band and they run their wimax on the 2500mhz band. They will be shutting down iden and placing LTE on that band at some point. So in the future-land we should see sprint offering WiMax at 2500, and LTE at 2500 and 800. The only advantage to the 800 mhz frequency is that it can pass through walls better... throughput will be the same. The advantage will be most noticeable for mobile devices I suspect as the fixed devices are working great now on the 2500 band. Once again... all guesswork as they still havent officially even said they were gonna use LTE, that should happen on the 7th. edit: changed 2400 to 2500mhz
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iFail 5G join:2011-08-03	reply to criggs said by criggs: said by dib22: There might be some advantage to some people with their LTE that will sit on the 800mhz spectrum, as it should technically penetrate walls better. Here I'm afraid I have to plead ignorance. What frequencies will Sprint LTE use? Are you saying they might use more than one frequency, in other words, that they will use both 800 and somewhere else in the spectrum? Does this mean that every time one connects to Sprint LTE it will be a crap shoot whether one gets connected at 800 or at some other frequency? And that it is only the 800 frequency which might, potentially, offer superior connectivity/throughput to Wimax, other things being equal? Its highly highly unlikely that they will use 800mhz anytime soon for LTE because of interference. They barely got approved to run a single 1.27mhz CDMA 1X channel in the middle with band guards around it. They have to notify public safety within about 80 miles of EACH CDMA 800 SMR tower they turn up. LTE isn't likely at this point. It will probably be on 2.5ghz or 1900mhz.
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