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CSD8086

join:2004-03-12
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reply to Mike Wolf

Re: Nationwide EAS Test 11/9 2:00 PM EST

said by Mike Wolf:

the duckfarts were heard, an echo of it, a voice attempted to speak "thi-" then just silence.

My local broadcast station (Boston-based) indeed played the spoken audio message in its entirety. It's sad that the quality of the message made the broadcasts from the moon sound like they were in 5.1 surround.

You would think that in 2011, we'd have something that was a few notches up from Morse code...


Mike Wolf

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New hardware updates should solve this problem in future tests, Just gotta wait for IPAWS and CAP *sigh*

In January 2010 Alaska conducted a live code emergency action notification (the same code used for this national test) and proved that the national EAS was functional but identified necessary improvements. The next Alaska EAS test in 2011 the following year proved a success and reinforced the idea that continued EAS testing and exercising improves the system. It’s important to remember that this is the first test. The Nov. 9 test should provide us with an accurate snapshot on where we are as a nation so we can improve the EAS incrementally.



Mike Wolf

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reply to Oregonian
This isn't the first time directv has played music during an EAS lol »youtu.be/zhrWUG8MO7Y


CSD8086

join:2004-03-12
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said by Mike Wolf:

This isn't the first time directv has played music during an EAS lol »youtu.be/zhrWUG8MO7Y

Ya know, the least they could do is limit the songs to those that were contained on the Clear Channel banned songs list:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Clear···morandum

It would at least set the mood...


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

reply to Mike Wolf
Directv plays music on the holding / info slides / channels.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
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An article on the Broadcasting & Cable site about today's test:

EAS Test Reveals Deficits - Emergency alert worked in most areas of the country, not in others
»www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···cits.php



jkj860
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reply to wdsnls
I was listening to a local radio broadcast when the test occurred. The sounds went off and someone started to speak saying it was only a test and then it went silent cutting off the message.
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owlyn
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As we say in the I.T. world, this is why we test. Now that we know what doesn't work, it can be fixed. The only problem is that it hasn't been tested sooner.

Of course, if we ever do have to use it, the point will be moot, as it would be such a catastrophic event that it really won't matter if we were warned or not. It will just be BOAKYAGB.



djdanska
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reply to telcodad
"Many of the reported failures affected cable and satellite television subscribers, and some were quite head-scratching: Some DirecTV subscribers said their TV sets played the Lady Gaga song Paparazzi when the test was underway"

I can hear it now on tomorrow's 700 club: "that here queers with directv are trying to indoctrinate our youth!" haha!
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Mike Wolf

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reply to owlyn
true but it gives us engineers something to do so we don't become bored and build robots out of old set top boxes lmao



Mike Wolf

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reply to djdanska
what's sad is that that will actually happen! lmao


Kearnstd
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reply to owlyn

said by owlyn:

As we say in the I.T. world, this is why we test. Now that we know what doesn't work, it can be fixed. The only problem is that it hasn't been tested sooner.

Of course, if we ever do have to use it, the point will be moot, as it would be such a catastrophic event that it really won't matter if we were warned or not. It will just be BOAKYAGB.

or the news agencies and the internet will have half the whole US and most of the world informed with on the ground coverage before FEMA even knows something is happening to start the paperwork to use the EAS system on a national scale.
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Mike Wolf

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The whole point of the EAS system on a national scale is a last resort. Us on the broadcaster and government side hope it never has to be used, but if it does we want to make sure it freakin' works.


GTFan

join:2004-12-03

And it won't, and it will never get used, but we'll waste lots of time and money on it anyway.



Mike Wolf

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You’re missing the big picture. The EAS isn't just a countrywide thing, it can also be used more locally, like statewide, countywide, township wide, and with IPAWS it will even be accurate down to the street. That means the alert will only be given at specific location(s) if needed. Take New York City for example, say a water pipe broke between 42nd street and 45th street and the water is now contaminated, officials can send out an alert to just those residents living between 42nd street and 45th street and not to the entire city or borough. Watch this video »www.fema.gov/emergency/ipaws/
Plus the improvement in equipment and new standards will ensure audio can actually be heard and not the fiasco seen during the national test, ie Lady Gaga or massive echoing or nothing at all.


GTFan

join:2004-12-03

But that has nothing to do with the purpose of the test, which was to ensure that everyone in the country receives a nationwide alert at the same time.

Still a waste of money IMO, in this day and age. Cellphones, internet, and local news sources are far better means of distribution, and much faster than a gov't action.



Mike Wolf

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dude I'm 23, You can't get more modern day of age then me >.quite yet Anyway FEMA and FCC expected there was going to be issues with the national test but it shows the issues that didn't work that will be fixed, and shows what did work, and a byproduct of replacing hardware, tweaking settings, slapping engineers silly, is that county and local alerts will be better. Did you see the video I posted? It reincorporates cellphones and the internet. The problem with the local news aside from a large amount of "other issues", is that they can choose to not pass on any alerts how it's worded and just paraphrase it, not pass it on at all, or hold off on announcing the alert until the 11pm news so primetime programming isn't interrupted, but they generally do pass on weather alerts as a courtesy to their viewers.



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

reply to owlyn
two major disasters pearl harbor and 9-11 and the national system wasn't used.



Mike Wolf

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Prior to 1951, there was no method that the U.S. government could use to broadcast warnings to citizens in the event of an emergency. However, radio stations and networks could interrupt normal programming and issue a bulletin in the event of an emergency, as happened during the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, as well as the first successful tornado warning near Tinker Air Force Base in 1948. This type of broadcasting was the forerunner to CONELRAD. CONELRAD was replaced by the Emergency Broadcast System in 1963 which was later replaced by the Emergency Alert System in 1997. There was no need to activate the EAS for 9/11 because news stations already covered the topic and informed the public. A national EAS activation is mostly to allow the President to speak to the nation during an emergency when normal methods are not possible.



SmokChsr
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reply to GTFan

said by GTFan:

And it won't, and it will never get used, but we'll waste lots of time and money on it anyway.

Lets hope the EAN Network NEVER gets used for the real thing! Somewhere way back in this thread, I mentioned its intended use, The USA is under attack, most likely with nuclear weapons.

Actually I was surprised by the test, it came much closer to working than I expected. Of course much of that was some last minute scrambling, to plug holes that should have been plugged back in 1997.

The cause of the main problem with this test (Bad Audio) has already been determined and hopefully corrected.

Other than national the system does work and works well in many parts of the country. In other parts not so good, but that's up to the locals to figure out and fix.

As far as the money, it's already been spent to develop the system.

If the USA was to ever be hit by a high burst EMP device, the PEP stations might be about all that are left on the air. Life will be totally different for many years.
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